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  1. #1
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    What are your stats?

    I tend to refrain from posting full builds, because the details of same change a LOT. I might get a new piece of gear, or change my mind about which existing gear to use, or change around a single virtue.

    That said, it might be interesting just to see what people's stats are, unbuffed, even from day to day.

    At the moment, my healing build seems to have:

    6,039 Morale (clarinet)/6,327 Morale ("of Harmony" instrument)
    6,730 Power (clarinet)/6,425 Power ("of Harmony" instrument)
    1,859 ICPR
    20,692 Tactical Mastery
    4,592 Crit
    688 Crit Avoidance
    7,853 Resistance
    4,164 Armor
    3,367 Physical Mit
    4,079 Tactical Mit

    2140 Bolster (toolbar max)
    1070 Inspire (ditto)
    1547 CoS (ditto)

    The oddest features of my build today are:

    * Virtues: Wisdom, Valour, Zeal, Confidence, Innocence -- people might frown at several of those
    * I've gone for True relics across the board (which give a lot of ICPR)
    * My cloak is the Calhineb-Clog
    * My shield is Galuthan (so I also have a high block score -- 1904)

    Otherwise I'm wearing 5 Dragioch armor pieces, 1 Orthanc armor piece, 2 skirmish raid drop items, 2 rep items, 3 crafted Theodred items, and the Hyrde-Are quest reward earring.
    Last edited by CurtMonash; Dec 29 2011 at 01:36 PM.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    My DPS stats are similar to the above, but start:

    6,357 Morale
    6,794 Power
    1,653 ICPR

    That's just swapping in my cowbell, my DPS legendary items (with somewhat inferior relics), and the Enduring Morale trait. I have a variety of what in theory is DPS gear in my vault, but in practice don't bother putting it on when I solo. (So I just had some very good solo runs with a mere 1,545 Finesse.)

    Also, for DPS I forgo a +608 Tactical Mitigation/+300 Tactical Mastery scroll and use +5% Light Damage instead.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Standard raid setup:

    7491 Morale (clarinet/of Conservation)
    7277 Power (clarinet/of Conservation)
    1215 ICPR
    20,928 Tactical Mastery
    3862 Crit
    664 Crit Avoidance
    5767 Resistance
    4990 Armor
    3638 Physical Mit
    6104 Tactical Mit

    2156 Bolster (toolbar max)
    1066 Inspire (ditto)
    1550 CoS (ditto)

    Armor tale, 4B (focused performance, subtle movement, life singer, graceful demeanor) 3Y (sometimes 3B4Y)

    Virtues: Fidelity Tolerance Innocence Valour Zeal
    Last edited by Tityla; Dec 28 2011 at 09:26 PM.
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    Re: What are your stats?

    icpr isnt that important for me simply because the power return skill i can throw out when i need it. as for virtues, im always running with fidelity, innocence, honor, compassion, and charity for the tactical/physical mitigation's. I usually run with tale of heroism for the +85 will/fate.

    my healing set
    745 vitality
    1410 will
    489 fate
    7k Moral
    7.8k Power
    1,223 ICPR
    17,688 Tactical Mastery
    2,584 Crit
    1,160 Crit Avoidance
    6,810 Resistance
    5,572 Armor
    3,665 Physical Mit
    5,230 Tactical Mit

    2,113.7 Bolster (toolbar max)
    1020.3 Inspire (ditto)
    1,519.3 CoS (ditto)


    my dps/solo set
    938 vitality
    970 will
    497 fate
    8.6k Morale
    6.1k Power
    1,173 ICPR
    12,676 Tactical Mastery
    3,550 Crit
    1,160 Crit Avoidance
    6,808 Resistance
    5,462 Armor
    5,213 Physical Mit
    7,164 Tactical Mit

    1,824.9 Bolster (toolbar max)
    1,224.2 CoS (ditto)
    Last edited by Cardal; Dec 29 2011 at 06:01 AM.
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    Re: What are your stats?

    Obviously, Tale of Heroism takes skill payouts up somewhat. I stipulated "unbuffed" to even all that out.

    ICPR is tied to playstyle choices. It's pretty costly in effectiveness to throw a coda, so I try to do so as rarely as possible.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Fairly new to 75, and haven't done a lot of instancing yet, but...

    Morale 3262
    Power 5131
    Armor 4121

    Crit Hit 3443
    Crit Avoid 656
    Finesse 2906
    Resist 7926
    P Mit 2594
    Tac Mit 2728

    I'd love some more Morale, but... it's coming... slooowly.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Yikes. I just realized there was an error in my original post. I made it while I was traited red, adjusted correctly for Enduring Morale, but didn't adjust the tooltip numbers for the individual skills. I've now corrected them. That's for a 4-blue build.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Yeah, those are my stats unbuffed. I didnt even bother to see what it was buffed lol. and i usually throw out my power return coda right at the beginning so i have 20s to dish out some nice heals, then il follow with the coda ever 20 seconds, I usually never run out of power, unless the tank is getting hit hard, in which case I pray that our loremaster is watching lol
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    Re: What are your stats?

    Never really replied to a 'what are your stats' post before, but thought hey why not, might even pick up some tips...

    If im in heals mode (using clarinet)

    4,917 Morale
    6,605 Power
    1,385 ICPR
    18,256 Tactical Mastery
    4,912 Crit
    640 Crit Avoidance
    6.036 Resistance
    4,605 Armor
    1,929 Physical Mit
    2,581 Tactical Mit

    Virtues: (havent changed any of these in a long time)
    Empathy, Idealism, Loyalty, Valour, Wisdom

    Class Traits: (hardly change these anymore)
    FoH, FP, GA, GD, LS, PoS, ST (5B2Y)

    In the process of trying to sort out leg weapons and I need a new pocket, neck and one ring.

    If anyone has any advice let me know, would be interested to know how 7k morale is possible on a mincer... lol

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Most often i'm healing which i'm prefectly happy doing so. I like creating a balanced build like what i have currently.

    7,518 Morale
    7,652 Power
    1,363 ICPR
    19,086 Tactical Mastery
    4,213 Crit
    1,240 Critical Hit Avoidance
    5,210 Resistance
    4,390 Armour
    4,161 Physical Mit
    4,575 Tactical Mit
    40.1% Outgoing Healing Rating
    3,175 Finesse Rating

    Obviously as you can see i went for a very balanced build.
    Last edited by HalProudFoot; Jan 01 2012 at 09:00 PM.
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    AW: What are your stats?

    7,342 Morale
    8,675 Power
    1,318 ICPR
    25,286 Tactical Mastery
    5,033 Crit
    7,777 Resistance
    47.4% Outgoing Healing Rating

    unbuffed

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    Re: AW: What are your stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by CantosTheHobbit View Post
    7,342 Morale
    8,675 Power
    1,318 ICPR
    25,286 Tactical Mastery
    5,033 Crit
    7,777 Resistance
    47.4% Outgoing Healing Rating

    unbuffed
    I presume your Will is through the roof, and your relics max out Morale?

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    AW: What are your stats?

    my will is 1930

    These are my LI's:

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    Re: AW: What are your stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by CantosTheHobbit View Post
    my will is 1930

    These are my LI's:
    Thanks!

    That all explains the power and Tactical Mastery.

    So where do you get your morale?

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    Re: What are your stats?

    So jelly of your 75 book. Grats.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    epic book and sword, ima so jelly also :P

    has been long time ago since i had any 4 majors on LI :-/
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    Re: AW: What are your stats?

    Could u please add a picture of your gear ? or tell me which pieces of jewellry and gear u are using ?

    I got around the same stats, just lower power, but with more icpr and crit chance. Since u got a lvl 75 first age, i guess u have some orthanc gear aswell

    Quote Originally Posted by CantosTheHobbit View Post
    7,342 Morale
    8,675 Power
    1,318 ICPR
    25,286 Tactical Mastery
    5,033 Crit
    7,777 Resistance
    47.4% Outgoing Healing Rating

    unbuffed
    Commander Emaldiom [EN] Eldar - Challenger of Saruman

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    AW: What are your stats?

    Here is a List of my equip:

    [Earring of the Mathom-tender]
    [Dwarven Archivist's Loop]
    [Ancient Jade and Sapphire Necklace]
    [Vibrant Bracelet of Théodred]
    [Vibrant Bracelet of Théodred]
    [Ring of Willful Defence]
    [Ring of Willful Defence]
    [Western Seas Navigation Chart]
    [Hat of the Hadollin]
    [Shoulder Pads of the Hadollin]
    [Wyrmscale Wizard's Cloak]
    [Jacket of Thelin]
    [Gloves of Thelin]
    [Leggings of Thelin]
    [Shoes of Thelin]
    [Exquisite Premium Clarinet]
    [Fornost Healer's Shield]

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Tnx alot! we do have some in common atleast

    Here are my stats:


    Morale: 7139
    Power: 8238
    Armour: 5559
    ICPR: 1473

    Critical hit: 5898 (16,1%)
    Finesse: 3295
    Tactical Matery: 25,693 (47,9%)

    Resistance: 6807
    Physical: 3223
    Tactical: 4702


    Gear equiped:

    [Dwarven Archivist's Loop]
    [Careworn Earring]
    [Ancient Jade and Pearl Necklace]
    [Bracelet of the Thoughtful Council]
    [Band of the Codex Archivist]
    [Nírgor]
    [Tome of Evasive Maneuvers]

    [Hat of Thelin]
    [Shoulder Pads of Thelin]
    [Dirge-singer's Jacket]
    [Dirge-singer's Bracers]
    [Dirge-singer's Leggings]
    [Dirge-singer's Boots]

    [Wyrmscale Wizard's Cloak]
    [Fated Assault Shield of Théodred]
    [Exquisite Premium Clarinet]
    Last edited by NImlonda; Jan 04 2012 at 02:17 PM.
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    Re: What are your stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ggror View Post
    Fairly new to 75, and haven't done a lot of instancing yet, but...

    Morale 3262
    Power 5131
    Armor 4121

    Crit Hit 3443
    Crit Avoid 656
    Finesse 2906
    Resist 7926
    P Mit 2594
    Tac Mit 2728

    I'd love some more Morale, but... it's coming... slooowly.
    This makes me feel better. I'd been wondering if I was doing something wrong or somehow missing out on some gear as I level up (I'm 71 currently) as my health level has actually been dropping somewhat from what I had at 65 before I quit playing for a while. Nice to see I'm not the only one shuffling through with a low health pool.

    It's really hard to judge what you ought to have based on all of the raiding stats thrown out when you don't raid and aren't able to instance in Isengard yet. I guess the question to ask is if it is normal to arrive at 75 in all quest gear and drops (and a few rep purchases) with less than 4k health, etc? If so, I'll cease bothering with my stats and just worry about it as I get to 75.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    I almost always feel that one strengthens one's character more by leveling up than by grinding virtues, obsessing over gear, whatever.

    My "Thou Shouldst Have Good Gear!" attitudes are concentrated in the area that, IF you don't have good gear, you shouldn't be asking to join PUGs for content that you're not ready for yet.

    For example, if a raid skirmish were short on healers, I'd favor taking an under-geared or even under-leveled one. But I'd insist on a well-geared minstrel if I were going to Isengard.
    Last edited by CurtMonash; Jan 06 2012 at 06:34 AM.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    I didn't intend my reply to be a shot at anyone, or to accuse anyone of elitism; sorry if I gave that impression. I was honestly curious if anyone else was having the same experience I was having, watching my health dwindle back down as I leveled up. I think I was around 3800 or so at 65 and am at 3400 or so as of last night. This thread and the reply I noted established I'm not alone in that, but I'm still curious if it's true for most mini's that you get to 75 with 3500 health or thereabouts. If it is, I'll suspend my wondering and just level. I'll probably do that anyway.

    The only reason I really care is how hard some of the mobs I've had to kill have hit. I died in about 4 hits to one mob last night, mostly because I was in shock over how hard he hit me - didn't expect that out of a solo quest. I had to clear a goodly chunk of upper Barnavon to make a kite path big enough to stay away from him.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Just since u can stack up will as high as u want does not mean its recomended and needed.. With 3,5k morale u would have a hard time even in mirkwood as lvl 60-65.. Dont use all the will gear u find and keep over a minimum of 5k morale (hopefully 6k)

    Skirm raids 5k morale unbuffed is decent enough.. as soon as u go into isengard 3-man u need 6-7k morale pool
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    Re: What are your stats?

    my more balanced build with some vitality also. can get up to 2300 will but then il drop my vitality to around 800.

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    Re: What are your stats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mulkfather View Post
    I'm still curious if it's true for most mini's that you get to 75 with 3500 health or thereabouts.
    I don't see why anybody would take offense at your questions.

    Anyhow, while I'll confess to already having forgotten the details in my case, my experience was consistent with the idea that one's morale goes up a lot at 75. I think there are several reasons for this.

    First, there's a LOT more gear to choose from when you can wear Level 75 crafted gear and/or you've done almost every advanced quest in the game and/or you have a bunch of rep with the Dunlendings and/or the Rohirrim. It's likely for those factors to all kick in around the same time, giving you multiple ways to upgrade gear. Similarly, some people don't put good relics into their LIs until they have some level-cap items they plan to stick with for a while.

    Second, it's more important to have good gear when you're doing endgame instances and so on than when you're just leveling up.

    When raiding, your morale can go down by 3-5000 VERY fast, and that actually happens pretty frequently. Fortunately, buffed morale can be 140% or so of unbuffed. (I don't know or check the numbers precisely, but that feels like a ballpark estimate for when you have captains, Tale of Battle, and so on.) Even so, the people who look down on builds with less than 6000 or so unbuffed morale are correct FOR CERTAIN CONTENT. Indeed, they're right to call for 6500-7000+ as a preferred range. (I'm at the low end of that, because I skimp on everything else so as to take my power efficiency higher than most other other minstrels'.)

    As I posted in the Wyrmscale Cloak thread -- within my first 15 minutes of raiding after taking my unbuffed morale over 6500, I got down to under 300 morale and survived. Had I had my previous day's build of only 6000 or so, the group probably would have wiped right there.
    Last edited by CurtMonash; Jan 06 2012 at 07:41 AM.

 

 
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