Anyone who says that LI's are not the biggest grind in the game is kidding themselves. For the amount of time and effort put into getting great LIs, this really feels like resetting the grind (purely pertaining to LIs). I agree that coding time could be spent better elsewhere as opposed to a massive overhaul, where the LIs actually grow with you, but there has got to be a more player friendly route to getting the empowerment scrolls other than farming skirms and S3Ms/S4Ms.
Including the new higher lvl scrolls in older barter systems (dol guldur medallions/loth/moria/OD Tokens) would take the sting out of the grind, since no one wants to run school/library a thousand times. Another route could be bartering moria tokens to lorien to dol goldur to OD to Isenguard tokens, and it should not be difficult or time consuming to impletment. Im very disappointed that phase B was cancelled, though I have no idea if that actually meant LIs that grow with you. Turbine - prove this cancellation isnt a money grab, considering all the LI stuff recently added to the store, and merge a useful end game barter system that can stand the test of time.
Vertigo - 65 Captain - Pariah
Escyndir - 65 Champion - Pariah
Dartsk - Murder Herd
We've basically seen the same models reused over and over since Moria with minor changes. The instances have all become very linear. (HoC onward is like invisible wall era.) Legendary Items are not fun, to me at least.
Turbine has become a fairly successful company, I don't see any reason they shouldn't expand to keep up the quality of work in line with that of SoA.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game and I love the IP. From my point of view though, it all looks lazy.
LIs are customizable, but not unique. Everyone wants the same major legacies as everyone else in their class. Cappy buffsticks all look the same.
Turbine can remain relevant if they stop driving people away with this ###### LI system. A Legendary Weapon should, imo, work more like skirmish soldiers. Customizable, grindy but *progressive.* NOT recycling/replacing, and NOT identical to the other guy's LI because there are *that many* *good* options to choose from.
LIs will not save this game. They're killing it. LIs will not give Turbine a sustainable income because more people, rather than fewer, are sick and tired of throwing good money and time after badly spent money and time. Those who disagree, come to my server and ask in glff, or gooc. Just ask how many people are considering leaving the game: 1. we haven't been getting enough new content (thankfully that's been changing lately), 2. LIs are becoming more trouble than the entire game is worth (which is only getting WORSE over time).
Last edited by ElanMorinTedroni; Sep 16 2011 at 04:11 PM.
1. removal of radiance
2. everyone in group getting tokens for armor barter (rather than just one piece that goes to lucky person)
3. north men medallions made bind to account rather than character
4. crafting item/barter tokens for 1st ages rather than dropping a random item so that we can craft the item we want
5. the ability to interact with quest NPCs without having to first dismount your horse
and i am sure there are many more but those are ones i can think of atm. bottom line is that our feedback is very important part and can result in positive changes to the game.
This should have been obvious.
I am not a fan of the LI system and dont think I ever will be. The current system is better in many respects, in that you can get what you want with a little work. However in saying that I think Turbine took us a bit to literally when we said that we didnt mind a bit of grind so long as we could see where we are going. I think they overdid the grind to make the LI's good a bit to much (re empowerment scrolls/shard grinding)
I think in the future Turbine needs to be very careful with adding anymore grind back into the system. With the new cap raise we are starting the whole grind LI process again from scratch, however coupled with that they have given us another level of grind to go with it. New empowerment scrolls at higher cost, new level of relics at higher cost however with the latter they have reduced the avenues to meet those costs. Adding another level of grind and making that little bit harder to achieve the end just makes no sense to me when we are starting from scratch. This would make sense if we were keeping what we currently have.
While we have LI's in the game I think Turbine will always have issues, cant say its the majority but I would think taht a great number of players in LOTRO just tolerate LI's and live with them because we have to. Content is balanced for thier use. If it was viable to use non LI items I think that most would cease to use them. I know when I first saw the initial SS of weapons from ROI before they were balanced for DPS, I had a glimmer of hope that I may have been able to throw away a few LI's and just use standard weapons. But that is my view and could be far from what most think
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