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  1. #2451
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    To the various persons to whom this concerns regarding LC3, that was NOT a zerg on spars as I was trying to explain. We only hit one freep anyway (intentionally), whom we had chased up the hill from Lumber camp, who apparently sought out LC3 for sanctuary/refuge. Any freep would do the same as we did - carry on the pursuit. If someone with us infringed upon a 1v1, I'm sorry, but we can't account for the various hangers-on we had. We were only a tribe group of 8/9, and those who were following had nothing to do with us. I'm pretty sure it was one of them who interfered with your 1v1.

    Our intent was not to touch spars, or interrupt any of your 1v1s. You lot are so hypersensitive about spars. We came, we looked, and went back to LC (thinking obviously that it would be a good idea to leave well alone, and return to what we were doing).

    Then we get freeps logging on creep giving us abuse: "killing people who were sparring in an unoffical sparing area is pretty s****ty..and people who did are just sad f***s" announced one, copy/pasted from ooc.

    If we wanted to zerg LC3, we would have. We didn't. We passed through spars on different business, and then left you to it. No one else other than the freep we were chasing up from ninja hill was touched.

    As I was logging off freeps made a revenge-raid to kill us it would seem. Why? You were probably too quick to log your freep to see the explanations/discussions about the incident in our ooc. But there's no good reason to raid up against us, a small tribe group, other than lashing out for the fact we dared to bring our fight near LC3. Again, it was happenstance, we had no intention of disturbing you, or attacking any 1v1s going on there. You guys need to chill out and get some perspective, because this is all very silly.
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    it was a really nice fight guys, and we really enjoyed it. thank you
    Pirk =)

  3. #2453
    Quote Originally Posted by brknx View Post
    Amazing how brave Aglovale can be once he has plenty of support. He was one of the 2 freeps who cowardly fled to lc3 with creeps in pursuit after flipping HHOP - when the OPs were already balanced 2-2. We could have steamrolled him and all the other freeps there, but we didn't.

    Any more of this nonsense from freeps and I will be reporting all those I see at lc3 'sparring' as rank farming/clubbing - because we all know that is what it is much of the time - and it will be Aglovale who will have brought this on you should any of you get banned as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SongSinger View Post
    Amazing how brave Aglovale can be once he has plenty of support. He was one of the 2 freeps who cowardly fled to lc3 with creeps in pursuit after flipping HHOP - when the OPs were already balanced 2-2. We could have steamrolled him and all the other freeps there, but we didn't.

    Any more of this nonsense from freeps and I will be reporting all those I see at lc3 'sparring' as rank farming/clubbing - because we all know that is what it is much of the time - and it will be Aglovale who will have brought this on you should any of you get banned as a result.
    lol please report it and stop qq' ing.
    Pirk =)

  5. #2455
    why r u guys even qqing over being zerged at a spar area....cuz according 2 turbine there is no such thing. its an open pvp map and occasionally peeps will zerg spars on both sides creep and freep makes no dif.
    2 log over n cry about it is just lol
    its a game u don't die 4 real or do u?
    I go spars on defi 2 res peeps cuz im nice but I don't get any infamy 4 it and 2bh it bores the hell outta me. but its summit 2 do when the action is dead. cant understand peeps that spar when theres a freep/creep raid about but that's just me I guess
    how can u police an area that's open? u will always get freeps/creeps trying 2 run there 2 safety. how can u know when a freep is riding from gv to lc3 2 spar and meet a creep halfway that creep is gonna leave him/her alone cuz its going 2 spar? or a creep that hasn't got lc3 map running there wud a freep leave said creep alone?

    its a pvp map u r always gonna get situations that u don't like, live with it cuz u cant run 2 mummy if u don't like it cuz there r no rules in pvp.

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    Totally agree Deni, but what's worse is we didn't zerg it, we didn't touch LC3, we only went after this 1 freep who ran there because he thought he could hide amongst the sparrers and be safe. All we did was bring our PvP group, engaged in PVP action, to a private sparring session. Well sorry. But we left you as we found you, in peace. Next thing we know we see a freep raid, or largish group coming to steamroll us for the outrage of it, like we crashed a private party. Just lol. Expected better from you than a childish knee-jerk reaction.

    As specified, it IS an open map, there are NO spars. By all means have your arranged 1v1 fight with friends. But some people will not respect/observe these spars sessions, so being zerged is a real possibility. We did not do that. Our business was with 1 freep and 1 freep only. We respected your 1v1s and left. We in our tribe group did NOTHING WRONG.
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  7. #2457
    Hey Aglovale, you are a real hero aren't you. First of all you run to lc3 last night to avoid being killed. Now in the fight at the fire boss in DoF you run when freeps are wiping leaving all of your friends to die. I am pleased I don't play freepside and have to rely on cappies like you to support me!

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    laggy laggfest




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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruno View Post
    When HD does come, gods help us all if the servers aint ready....
    Its not just you Haruno, since they 'fixed' the invisible objects bug, lag like this seem to be more happening than before.
    The end is near, the ring will melt, but not if I can help it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by botoo View Post
    Its not just you Haruno, since they 'fixed' the invisible objects bug, lag like this seem to be more happening than before.
    I know <3 whole raid dced







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    server crashed 4 creeps also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruno View Post
    screenshot
    Hehe I like how freep OOC responded pretty much exactly the same as we creeps did. For me the most plausible theory is still Liio causing all the lag as a bitter retaliation for our lack of faith in his powers.

    I did enjoy the fights though. Lots of fun seeing so many players around. Good fights and no hide and seek. I hope to see this kind of action every day until HD release. Maybe slightly fewer numbers though, as sometimes the skill lag was unbearable.

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    Well, I have to say tonights raids when they met at DG for the 1st time was a complete and utter disgrace by Turbine due to the horrendous lag.

    It is not due to people having ###### PCs or anything like that but due to Turbine having s.h.i.t.e. servers. The whole and I mean whole creep raids were not moving for over 90secs before the majority got kicked out of the server!!!!!

    THe next fight at DG, we had teh ON buff and still the lag was ####, 20-30secs at best befdore any skills may have been used in which time the freep had moved etc.

    Totally unacceptable and if this was any other service by a reputable company, they would take all complaints really seriously, do some proper good customer service and look at, not only acknowledgin there is a server lag problem but also making sure their customers (freeps and creeps) are looked after.

    Obviously, Turbine is failing to do this on mutliple areas.

    Shocking service, shocking servers and to be honest, I'd rather this game now fail in HD as they deserve it sorry to say.

    On a good note - many thanks to both freeps and creeps for a fun evening.
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    Going back to the LC3 issue, just wanted to add one other thing. Word reached me that the reason the freeps at LC3 got upset by what happened was because at least one of the creep players present had apparently tagged several of the 1v1s that were going on. If that is correct then I can see why you reacted negatively, but please know that was not the intent of our group that was just after the one freep that fled there. If one or two hotheaded people went a bit crazy and started attacking this target and that, by all means take it up with them, but not tar all creep players that were present with the same brush. We told people NOT to attack anything and leave the area. There was no intention to interfere with any of the spars going on, and for those with hair triggers I am sorry. I think I speak for all ABs by saying we wish to bury the hatchet and forget about this now.

    As for the lag problems tonight. What a joke that was. As deni said the craid lagged as well and were kicked out. It spoiled an otherwise enjoyable night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor View Post
    Going back to the LC3 issue, just wanted to add one other thing. Word reached me that the reason the freeps at LC3 got upset by what happened was because at least one of the creep players present had apparently tagged several of the 1v1s that were going on. If that is correct then I can see why you reacted negatively, but please know that was not the intent of our group that was just after the one freep that fled there. If one or two hotheaded people went a bit crazy and started attacking this target and that, by all means take it up with them, but not tar all creep players that were present with the same brush. We told people NOT to attack anything and leave the area. There was no intention to interfere with any of the spars going on, and for those with hair triggers I am sorry. I think I speak for all ABs by saying we wish to bury the hatchet and forget about this now.

    As for the lag problems tonight. What a joke that was. As deni said the craid lagged as well and were kicked out. It spoiled an otherwise enjoyable night.
    as I said before in the ooc to uzfang I didnt blame the raid, I just said maybe not every1 outside the raid shared the same thoughts as the peeps in the raid, hence why it got a little messy at lc3 after. I was just on defiler back then sparring a rk (ekla's I think) and saw him during my spar getting hitted by serveral creeps. He didnt die, but it did interrupt my spar and shortly after most the freeps prob felt insecure so it kinda ended spars. Im not saying any1 in the raid attacked the freeps that werent hiding in lc3, but maybe some followers did. I understand the miscommunication, and yes I heard over 1001 times that ettens isnt save between gramsfoot and gv, so lets not repeat that all over again^^ . I think most players that play over 6 years get the concept of ideas some peeps have about lc3, its just sad that not all players respect that wish.







  17. #2467
    well as for myself and many others our opinion of lc3 spars was always at an all time low but we gritted our teeth and avoided the place, unfortunately due to nuffnuff, cuturi, nurti, haruno and many others completely going overboard and killing the night for many others due there hotheaded and un-intelligent actions I and many others will be making sure there are no spars at lc3 from now on, etten is a war zone if u step into it then expect to die, nothing personal from person 2 person but now i do not recognise any safe areas in etten apart from gv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindings View Post
    well as for myself and many others our opinion of lc3 spars was always at an all time low but we gritted our teeth and avoided the place, unfortunately due to nuffnuff, cuturi, nurti and many others completely going overboard and killing the night for many others due there hotheaded and un-intelligent actions I and many others will be making sure there are no spars at lc3 from now on, etten is a war zone if u step into it then expect to die, nothing personal from person 2 person but now i do not recognise any safe areas in etten apart from gv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindings View Post
    well as for myself and many others our opinion of lc3 spars was always at an all time low but we gritted our teeth and avoided the place
    Yep haven't had trouble since this event

    Quote Originally Posted by blindings
    unfortunately due to nuffnuff, cuturi, nurti and many others completely going overboard and killing the night for many others due there hotheaded and un-intelligent actions
    The night would of just been your 9 person ->if im correct<- tribe group killing mostly solo freeps and taking the odd keep, atleast a fight happened, although we outnumbered you because of people following our group, im sure you had more fun than taking keeps and finding the odd freep, for most people in the group it was priority just to fight your group because you had one, not because of the incident at LC3 or revenge



    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor
    Totally agree Deni, but what's worse is we didn't zerg it, we didn't touch LC3, we only went after this 1 freep who ran there because he thought he could hide amongst the sparrers
    Spider pets and a warg interrupted spars happening at that time, wulfspiders if I recall correctly, obviously that did annoy some of the freeps/creeps sparring at the time and made them question what the Angband group was there to do

    Quote Originally Posted by Deniorona
    cant understand peeps that spar when theres a freep/creep raid about but that's just me I guess
    Lc3 spars is a main feature for some of us, cant understand peeps that raid when theres spars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor
    I think I speak for all ABs by saying we wish to bury the hatchet and forget about this now.

    Good, hopefully lc3 spars can continue without being ganked and when your tribe group next chases a freep to lc3, players that spar often already at the spar zone will understand after this event you guys arn't there to get freeps sparring, but the freep/s that ran there, and we proceed as normal knowing Angband members arn't tagging us but maybe a leacher or whatever that will swiftly be killed

    Although it seems blindings isn't currently on the same page.. although it was nice to have a fight with Blindings where there is no rules, Blind used burrow/reflect/stuns etc and I used morale pot and hunter bubble, I know some freeps/creeps are against spars because of the unwritten spar rules.


    Quote Originally Posted by blindings
    actions I and many others will be making sure there are no spars at lc3 from now on
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor
    As I was logging off freeps made a revenge-raid to kill us it would seem.
    Was a few mixed reasons, not just "revenge".

    1. for some in the raid it was incident that happened on creep OOC with three freep/creep players I believe
    2. You had a group so we decided to fight you.
    3. Also what happened at lc3 spars regarding spider pets/warg interrupting spars


    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor
    But there's no good reason to raid up against us
    To have some group fights as your tribe already had one, we diden't invite people as some of us wanted a fair fight, that couldn't happen though because of the amount of leachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyndor
    we had no intention of disturbing you, or attacking any 1v1s going on there. You guys need to chill out and get some perspective, because this is all very silly.
    from what i've heard Wulfspider went up to freeps sparring and dotted them, therefore disturbing spars....
    Also a warg jumping freeps sparring, maybe that warg wasn't with you guys.
    According to intel Blindings was going to wipe Lc3 is any more comments where directed at him in OOC or tells, so freeps where already getting ready to have a group fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindings View Post
    well as for myself and many others our opinion of lc3 spars was always at an all time low but we gritted our teeth and avoided the place, unfortunately due to nuffnuff, cuturi, nurti, haruno and many others completely going overboard and killing the night for many others due there hotheaded and un-intelligent actions I and many others will be making sure there are no spars at lc3 from now on, etten is a war zone if u step into it then expect to die, nothing personal from person 2 person but now i do not recognise any safe areas in etten apart from gv.
    When I logged freep, like 30+ mins after the wonderful convo we had in creep ooc, the raid had been started a while ago. I was just solo for a while, and was only grouped up with a hunter for a bit after he got 3vs1ed between tir/gv and saw me beating the campers 1vs3 (yep tar kite, waterlore wotc, but hey, as u creeps say urself, no rules in ettens, right?) and I gave him an escort when the fight was at tir that was between ur group and some soloers vs a group of about 9 freeps (they even refused to invite more) and some soloers.
    I have no idea when they started the raid, and if its true that they did it just for ganking u.
    And I think they find the attitude u have towards sparrers a much better reason than the fact u accidentily disturbed the spars at lc3, but I didn't make nor join that raid, so thats something u will have to ask the peeps that formed/joined the raid







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    Quote Originally Posted by Eklabondood View Post
    Yep haven't had trouble since this event


    The night would of just been your 9 person ->if im correct<- tribe group killing mostly solo freeps and taking the odd keep,
    We formed that group (which was 9 people I think) initially to fight a freep group that was in and around Lug. We won that and took back Lug (if I recall correctly), and then proceeded to go after LC and take an Op. It wasn't created to be a farm group, but a trying-to-fight-on-equal-terms group. Then we caught that freep near LC whilst still in our tribe group. You may see it as 'ganking a solo' but of course we're going to try and go after that kill, nothing abnormal about one player being run down by several, it happens all the time to all of us. But anyway, that's what brought us to LC3. I knew 1v1s were going on as they had been recently advertised in our ooc. And even as we were running up that hill I said to be careful going up there, and to keep your cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eklabondood View Post
    Was a few mixed reasons, not just "revenge".

    1. for some in the raid it was incident that happened on creep OOC with three freep/creep players I believe
    2. You had a group so we decided to fight you.
    3. Also what happened at lc3 spars regarding spider pets/warg interrupting spars
    Aye no worries, since I wrote the first post I found about the tagging of some of the spars going on, and came to understand why some parties involved got aggravated. I actually logged the text from the chatbox after this incident just in case, well you know... And reading through it, sure enough I see the name of I think a warg that was there who kicked off a lot of this. To quote exactly (I'm sure Senbonzakura doesn't mind me using his name, because there is nothing here against him):

    [OOC] Senbonzakura: 'some1 attacked the rk i was sparring, ......'
    [OOC] unnamed warg: 'I attacked the rk because we were raiding'.

    Well that warg wasn't with us, I don't know him, and I categorically state he is definitely not in Abs, nor was he part of our group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eklabondood View Post
    Good, hopefully lc3 spars can continue without being ganked and when your tribe group next chases a freep to lc3, players that spar often already at the spar zone will understand after this event you guys arn't there to get freeps sparring, but the freep/s that ran there, and we proceed as normal knowing Angband members arn't tagging us but maybe a leacher or whatever that will swiftly be killed

    Although it seems blindings isn't currently on the same page.. although it was nice to have a fight with Blindings where there is no rules, Blind used burrow/reflect/stuns etc and I used morale pot and hunter bubble, I know some freeps/creeps are against spars because of the unwritten spar rules
    As Blinds said, I presume that nearly all of us (who don't spar) have in the past avoided spars, simply because they didn't want to be the cause of a 'diplomatic incident' lol. The only time I'll ever be involved in a fight at LC3 whilst a spar circle is going on is if I, whilst passing through, or watching, gets attacked first.

    I do understand why people want to spar. But I also insist that people who spar try to understand the people who don't, and respect the fact that the 'majority' don't, and prefer 'open landscape' action. This of course does not excuse any spars that get interrupted or suddenly ganked. I don't want to be involved in that. I used to go to LC3 on my several freeps in the past and spar with mates and kinnies whilst laughing about it over vent etc. I used to win a fair few as well! I understand that's what a lot of you still do. I've experienced the fun of that. I've also experienced the downside, being rolled over by a zerg train there on both sides. The only time I'll ever go to spars now is on my warg in stealth to just sit down and watch, and chat, just to have fun when there's nothing else going on. Also, I used to be able to win on freep, but not on creep! Maybe a high rank Reaver or spider has a good shot at winning a 1v1 these days, but a BA for example doesn't have as much of a shout.
    Last edited by Gwyndor; Oct 28 2013 at 11:21 AM.

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    Well the other day I had my first spar in over a year. Shock of shocks I won and beat a champ.

    I might have another spar next year

    For the record it is only a few people who want to gank spars, most players even if they dont like the spar zone just leave it alone.

    I might try and get a bit of banter going but live and let live I say.

    Great action Sunday night by the way, helped me on my way to my next rank

  23. #2473
    [QUOTE=Eklabondood;6976094]

    Lc3 spars is a main feature for some of us, cant understand peeps that raid when theres spars.


    cant understand why i was quoted as I said this was my own opinion, esp by some1 who quit the game.....oh but I guess ur back

    and u c me standing round emoting 2 freeps and creeps while I wait 2 res on defi and its only when action is quiet I do this......

  24. #2474
    all this talk about freeps saying don't touch us at spars etc , as a raid we come up to lc 3 last night as spars was mentioned in occ...
    we wanted to see which freeps where there to see if freep raid had been disbanded.... we got there we saw the freep raid on the left of us w didn't engaged u guys did first and this ment to be a safe ground,
    specially for you `full time` spar people who was in the raid ...
    anyways well done to the creep for standing our ground was actually a good fight without lag up there tbh lol....
    just like to mention the good rat following and blight combos as we only had 2 defilers for the big fight at tol 3 / lc 3 and tir hs.

    good fights al round another good day for pvp keep it up... until creeps had to log and we couldn't counter your 41 freeps at lug hill we tried to get numbers we even charged at u silly idea but wasn't enough creeps on, either logged or did the dirty on us

    cheers all

    MrMatty

    p.s I just like to say that we left the only 2 who were up there at the spar area as they were sitting down and enjoying the view , did like it when some people tried to hide from the freep raid up with them tho and my post isn't a flame just reading all this about spars etc and u attacked us there . I don't mind as its a pvp map
    Mrmatty- R14 defiler

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    As matty said, very good night, i like to say a big thank you to the 3 players sitting at lc 3 when we had a raid vs raid, it's nice too see some good things at lc 3, aslo none of us got any lag at all, so that was good. thanks for all the good fights, lets hope this keeps like it till HD

    thanks Ug


 

 
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