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  1. #426

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    there does seem to be alot of people falling out with each other.

    Is this being heightened by the very unbalanced play we have at present in the moors?

    I of course dont fall out with anyone

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by HampshireMick View Post
    there does seem to be alot of people falling out with each other.

    Is this being heightened by the very unbalanced play we have at present in the moors?
    That is the exact reason imo, it is not even fun to play creep anymore. If I end up swearing at a computer screen I just do not continue to play that particular game, sadly when I log creep this usually takes ten minutes at most.

    Fortunately, I am finding the PVE on my guardian fun so that occupies 95% of my game time now.
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonlas View Post
    amazing how these pvp threads havent changed at all in the last (near) 5 years. always an entertaining read at work. keep it up
    likewise Jon^ five years later and the 'discussion' has barley moved on, got a bit bored of it all myself but still makes for an entertaining read whilst bored at work from time to time. Keep up the good erm..bad work Eldar trolls.
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar View Post
    It will presumably cause you great distress to know that I agree completely. Pre-Moria Ettenmoors was the most fun and the most balanced it has ever been.[/FONT]
    Yes, those times when Yeoldemaster lead raids and camped Grams were really fun and balanced... (sarcastic in case you missed it). I started playing creep only at b12 (I'm a book12 newbie) and if I recall correctly creeps back then were much weaker than freeps. I mean, we didn't even had incoming power/morale regen back then and our skillbar consisted of ~5 skills. It was only "balanced" due to the numbers. Creep:freep ratio was in favour of the creeps. Nowadays creeps are like NPCs again, but they often lack the numbers to have a balanced fight.

    I do agree to Grish' point though that fights were much, much longer during SoA. But that is to me the only reason why the Ettenmoors was so much more fun compared to now. Tir rock fights were awesome, they could last forever. And lots here have been playing well before b12 so maybe it was even better then, but that I don't know.

    Although I'm kind of glad that with Moria my warg got a lot more skills. During SoA it was just mashing Claws and maybe an occasional Pounce to break the boredom.

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by -Kern- View Post
    likewise Jon^ five years later and the 'discussion' has barley moved on, got a bit bored of it all myself but still makes for an entertaining read whilst bored at work from time to time. Keep up the good erm..bad work Eldar trolls.
    Hai Kern,

    please enlighten us with one of your made up Etten stories, always admired your imagination ;-)
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  6. #431

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    guys what the hell is going on with eldar pvp?
    Some time ago we had nice spars at tol3. Freeps passes throught few times and didnt touch anybody(thx mellow), then came creeps and killed everybody who were sparring there. 15 min later he did it again. and the again. Then we moved to lc3 and he came and killed us again. Im really sick of this idiotic guy, will he ever stop doing that? I know he has raid, and he has to make some fun to everybody who following him, but there also was a freep raid, and he could have some fights instead of killing 6 freeps again and again. I tried to be polite, but now my pations is over.

    ps sorry for qq

    upd: few mins ago i was witness how kin group of last sons of ...(dont remember what) came lc3 and killed creeps who were sparring, im really sorry for them, that guys seems like had no idea what was going on(everybody r4-5)
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    I think pvmp hit rock bottom the latest days.

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by avdept View Post
    guys what the hell is going on with eldar pvp?

    upd: few mins ago i was witness how kin group of last sons of ...(dont remember what) came lc3 and killed creeps who were sparring, im really sorry for them, that guys seems like had no idea what was going on(everybody r4-5)
    Sorry for that, few kinnies are new at etten and didn't know about spar area. That will not happen again. And they killed only one creep (Sorry Shahtia). Once again, we are sorry for that.
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by avdept View Post
    guys what the hell is going on with eldar pvp?
    Some time ago we had nice spars at tol3. Freeps passes throught few times and didnt touch anybody(thx mellow), then came creeps and killed everybody who were sparring there. 15 min later he did it again. and the again. Then we moved to lc3 and he came and killed us again. Im really sick of this idiotic guy, will he ever stop doing that? I know he has raid, and he has to make some fun to everybody who following him, but there also was a freep raid, and he could have some fights instead of killing 6 freeps again and again. I tried to be polite, but now my pations is over.

    ps sorry for qq

    upd: few mins ago i was witness how kin group of last sons of ...(dont remember what) came lc3 and killed creeps who were sparring, im really sorry for them, that guys seems like had no idea what was going on(everybody r4-5)
    that's indeed very sad. ettens those days have confused me completely.
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  10. #435

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    It only takes one action of one player which will be viewed as 'lame' to trigger a series of reactions which in turn will be considered 'lame' by the opposite side. It does not matter if that lame action was deliberate or by accident as communication between freeps and creeps (if any) is always more like flaming and trolling then an effort to try to understand what the others are trying to tell.

    Ettenmoors is a pvp warzone in a MMO, but many players seem to forget a MMO is also a game you play _with_ each other even if you are on the opposite side. And there's always the little keyboard warriors who prefer to troll whoever just for their fun.
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    AW: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Sauron calls to battle. On 06.02.2012 on the server Belegaer.
    Let us all unite and fight together monster. 19:00 European time

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    Re: AW: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bid10 View Post
    Sauron calls to battle. On 06.02.2012 on the server Belegaer.
    Let us all unite and fight together monster. 19:00 European time

    Lg Gluck
    sry i don't listen to sauron anymore.Lord Calenhand is in fashion nowadays.Believe in calenhand, believe in pvp!
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  13. #438

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    *Scratches head at action last night* Creeps were rolling with 2 raids at one point, I assume after being fed up with being pushed into grams. Turned the map red, Sharns(half full?) raid pushed up to GV, got wiped then it was like all the creeps had disappeared....

    Then the usual camp gy action *yawn*
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  14. #439

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dugghere View Post
    *Scratches head at action last night* Creeps were rolling with 2 raids at one point . . .
    Funny thing is that creeps had the outnumber buff many times even with those 2 (incomplete) raids.

    What's the deal with An nowadays? He's found charging into Tol on so many occasions, doesn't he demands 25 tokens before he moves anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by botoo View Post
    What's the deal with An nowadays? He's found charging into Tol on so many occasions, doesn't he demands 25 tokens before he moves anymore?
    Sending him in nets 100 renown and 500 dp. Same for Old Goldhead and Golloval. Requires 18 tokens but you get 3 back so 15 cost in all. Most EM regulars have stacks of tokens and nothing worth getting from the GV chests so it's an easy choice to spend them sending these brave NPCs to their doom.
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    I have one question for guys from Mellowship. If someone have quest to escort that little hobbit from HH to LC, why do you lure spiders at that little hobbit? Any special reason?
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shirkaster View Post
    I have one question for guys from Mellowship. If someone have quest to escort that little hobbit from HH to LC, why do you lure spiders at that little hobbit? Any special reason?
    So it would reset and they can do the quest themselves?

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by avdept View Post
    upd: few mins ago i was witness how kin group of last sons of ...(dont remember what) came lc3 and killed creeps who were sparring, im really sorry for them, that guys seems like had no idea what was going on(everybody r4-5)
    Hi guys

    May I ask where exactly is LC3? This spar area is freep vs creep or by creeps on the same side? Are there any rules?

    Thank's a lot
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by avaaescaner View Post
    Hi guys

    May I ask where exactly is LC3? This spar area is freep vs creep or by creeps on the same side? Are there any rules?

    Thank's a lot
    Óscar
    LC3 is the location of the Good Lumber Camp map that creeps get after finishing lots of LC quests. See this picture for the exact location:
    http://www.the-rangers.net/joomla/im...eep_maploc.jpg
    (A bit south-east of the D of Hithlad)

    It's considered as a spar area. There aren't any "official" rules, but here are a few generally accepted "guidelines":
    - Jumping in front of the freep/creep means you want to spar him/her.
    - If you spar a warg, let him use stealth first. Same counts for a burglar. Funnily enough, usually when I spar a burglar, he lets me start from stealth.
    - No buffs from other classes (for example, no captain buffs if you aren't a captain)
    - No racial skills (most creeps hate this).
    - Some long CD skills aren't really appreciated in a spar. Last Stand and T&G are two of them. Of course you are may use them, but most creeps won't like that. On creepside, wargs aren't really supposed to use Disappear. Lots might disagree and believe you should use all skills possible, but at LC3 I prefer fair spars.

  20. #445

    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    how about rvrs charge?
    should i let them to charge?
    and do they allowed to use skill which gives them some bonus damage, but they dying after it?

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by avdept View Post
    how about rvrs charge?
    should i let them to charge?
    and do they allowed to use skill which gives them some bonus damage, but they dying after it?
    charge is fine.

    dying rage is also fine.. as long as they don't use it to charge away so you get 0 renown. that would be considered very bad sportsmanship!
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wardrat View Post
    LC3 is the location of the Good Lumber Camp map that creeps get after finishing lots of LC quests. See this picture for the exact location:
    http://www.the-rangers.net/joomla/im...eep_maploc.jpg
    (A bit south-east of the D of Hithlad)

    It's considered as a spar area. There aren't any "official" rules, but here are a few generally accepted "guidelines":
    - Jumping in front of the freep/creep means you want to spar him/her.
    - If you spar a warg, let him use stealth first. Same counts for a burglar. Funnily enough, usually when I spar a burglar, he lets me start from stealth.
    - No buffs from other classes (for example, no captain buffs if you aren't a captain)
    - No racial skills (most creeps hate this).
    - Some long CD skills aren't really appreciated in a spar. Last Stand and T&G are two of them. Of course you are may use them, but most creeps won't like that. On creepside, wargs aren't really supposed to use Disappear. Lots might disagree and believe you should use all skills possible, but at LC3 I prefer fair spars.
    Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

    And who cares about most freeps hate?

    When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

    Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

    If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

    If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.
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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by GalelValdan View Post
    Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

    And who cares about most freeps hate?

    When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

    Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

    If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

    If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.

    nice try bro

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by GalelValdan View Post
    Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

    And who cares about most freeps hate?

    When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

    Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

    If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

    If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.
    SOOO true. Can´t wait always see how ###### losers champs pops bubble(s), selfheals you really need them?? against creeps?? Good champ (GOOD GOOD GOOD) champ(s) can too easy kill high rank creeps without any problem...

    Rule 1: it ´s good to say now "don´t cry" coz your class is... no vittu godmode!!! BEFORE RoI i saw you few times spars and you pop all cd´s (ofc super glory stance)

    have you ever wonder why is good there is some rules??

    Most of etten freeps are just ###### cry machine and that is reason why etten is so unbalanced atm... ty turbine.

    Freeps:

    Burglar: no stealth, touch and go. hips, knives out, exploit opening or any other conju stuff. (good one can go without stuns too, but Hibbi is loser
    Captain. Last stand (i don´t know much about this class so, someone type something)
    Champion: no bubbles, selfheal (more??) fervour is super, glory=l2p
    Guardian: Pledge, warriors heart and brutal charge and turn the table what ever. (more?)
    Hunter: Don´t use bow.
    Loremaster: your super heal wisdom of something. In my opinion it is so lame to use Haruna tactic (need lc3-gy kite)
    Minstrel: Don´t come to lc3. It´s lame just heal heal heal and maybe drop WP too bubble is for nabs too, gratz.
    Rune-keeper: Lahnaaaa give some nice to here!
    Warden: Don´t know that "new" heal. Give almost full morale. Selfheal traits are lame too (blueline jo)

    Spider: no conju, no Trapdoor Sanctuary jo?
    Reaver: no need use DS.
    Defiler: no need to use Fell Restoration and you can try to make some dps too
    Blackarrow: Moving target. Uruk heal ofc
    Warleader: can you do some dps?? don´t only heal and uruk heal is lame too.
    Warg: DIPS, sprint and conju.

    YES, so many skill. But 1vs1 is good if you wanna learn play your class better. If you drop your "i win buttons" away how good you´re??

    No morale, power, wound, disease, fear, poison or any other pots. Don´t spar if you have any stupid buffs (hunter with motivation, crit buff, reaver with uruk +10% power, morale etc you know)
    Someone give us more.




    PS. Hunter can use bow

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    Re: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi View Post
    Rune-keeper: Lahnaaaa give some nice to here!
    Kiting aint nice in spars.

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