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  1. #2501
    Quote Originally Posted by TiNdA-LoS View Post
    (Ofc I bought skills for my creeps, but don't think anyone can blame me for this)
    Rypper will.
    Stop That! It's extremely silly!

  2. #2502
    Great fights last night, even with loads of soloers the group fights were still balance-able - based upon location - for example when I left after wiping in TA (thanks for pulls soloers) there were loads of Freeps who were farming west bridge but they didnt hang around in TA after pulling half the keep...

    I am not a fan of Store Brands etc as they tend to be abused by solo farmers who leech off group fights and then use EZ mode skills and store speed and immunity to escape, If they are Creeps, then these buffs dont help if they are low ranks.

    I laughed the most at the attacks at TR with Patrat "leading" in OOC - surely sometime the lower ranked creeps who he uses as cannon fodder to get his infamy will realise what is going on!?!

    You could at least invite them to a group with some healers and share some of your infamy Pat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogbarz View Post
    the thing that really makes the unbalance is not the 10+ wargs or the 10+ rk's putting up a lighting show, its those Store brands they are an advantage, and change the outcome of a fight for 70%
    Agree 100% with that.
    I just checked the leaderboards in this morning and I saw few freeps with high rating who just hug their groups for renown and seems to have no clue about how to fight.One of them is Alexgar, just saw his rating close to 2k and I wanted to try fighting this "mighty" captain...immune to pounce,slows,etc from ta river all the way to tr gy, sprinting and jumping like a two winged when he arrived at gy...I am sick of these huggers and store branders who never fight 1vs1, just always run the closest keep/gy/group/etc and do their best to feed the store.

    YEAH, I AM QQ-ING !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarus View Post
    Agree 100% with that.
    I just checked the leaderboards in this morning and I saw few freeps with high rating who just hug their groups for renown and seems to have no clue about how to fight.One of them is Alexgar, just saw his rating close to 2k and I wanted to try fighting this "mighty" captain...immune to pounce,slows,etc from ta river all the way to tr gy, sprinting and jumping like a two winged when he arrived at gy...I am sick of these huggers and store branders who never fight 1vs1, just always run the closest keep/gy/group/etc and do their best to feed the store.
    Once I chased minstrel from TR ford, to nombogs behind TA and all the way to Lug, unable to kill her with my poor spidey DPS.

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  5. #2505
    woah the burning tree is gonna be extinguished by all this qqing soon! I used to load it up and read replies in a minute or two, now it takes up to 20 :O

    If im honest - whilst warg packs are a pain, it's mostly lower ranked wargs in them, and in the scenario someone mentioned: 10 well geared freeps ganking OC log cos they're getting ganked at the gy - man up and deal with them? Let's be honest, freeps have the upper hand most of the time, if a group of 10 log cos they can't deal with a group of 6-7 wargs then that's kinda pathetic, it's hardly like we're seeing Shinach's old warg raids - going up to 24 (ahh those were the days ) Hunters can track almost to tr from the gy, so hunting them isn't really that difficult. From my experience on creepside, burg packs don't tend to last long cos they get hunted down by a small group of experienced creeps looking for a good fight or a raid etc... You have the ability to deal with them - so just destroy em!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faileon View Post
    Once I chased minstrel from TR ford, to nombogs behind TA and all the way to Lug, unable to kill her with my poor spidey DPS.

    Battlemages dont simply die when afk and autorun on, they heal themselves in ws even then.

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    Gratz to latest rankers Sherina,Fullarton,Masti and Grazak(didnt notice you ranked Grazak,apologies) and others i cant remember.
    About warg packs,they suck end off,maybe if they didnt just gank solos/duos it would be different but they dont,@ Gutterat sorry mate but ive seen a few of your tribies regular at TR GY and i dont mean the elbow,all the excuses about packs being formed dont wash,6+ stealthed class for a couple of freeps smacks big time of EZ mode and kills action in ettens
    Also audacity in ettens is a farce,greenie creeps have no chance,and using PvE armour increases most classes DPS so it will not help greenie creep im afraid,they will just die quicker,so more wargies get rolled,plus you dont want to see an under-garmented Thrara,his beard is bad enough
    Store bought stuff to PvP ? Turbine made it available,if people want to buy it imo its their choice to waste real money on a few pixels,me personally im not that desperate to avoid giving infamy/renown out for people to get their moment of glory i might get lucky next time,its PvP you win some you lose some
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    Personally i wouldnt play another creep in the moors on the rare occasions i do play apart from warg , i usually play solo or wiv 3-4 friends i dont like large packs i like to nip in a out of combat and roam around in stealth .. so why should i or anybody else roll or play another class because freeps dont like it ? For me the class is all about basically picking on he weak and quickly going in a out of combat who would i want to stand paw to toe wiv a champ with its endless cd's and high dps or a minstrel with its strong dps and healing abilities ? I play the game for my enjoyment not others who are mostly interest in how fast they can rank or there rating .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterat View Post
    Rypper will.
    Has he tried rolling a greenie reaver recently? I'm not attacking his opinion or anything, but I think I go down fast on my WL to a raid, I go down just as fast against one freep on a green reaver, the only way to be useful is to get a few skills and turn into a glass peashooter (cannon not being the correct expression).

    Three biggest problems in the moors, essentially around the same subject:

    1. New players are discouraged by a simply inability to compete.
    Problem: Audacity, eccentuated by lack of skills

    2. Reliance on raids/quests until you hit about rank 8.
    Problem: Lack of variety, which also doesn't help when trying to get into a game.

    3. Narrow mindedness/elitism in the majority of veteran players in the moors (including myself).
    Problem: We've been here too long and seen lots of players come and go, approaching new players/leading raids seems to be a waste of effort.

    That's how I see it. I'd also love a new map.... lol....
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  10. #2510

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garathas View Post
    Has he tried rolling a greenie reaver recently? I'm not attacking his opinion or anything, but I think I go down fast on my WL to a raid, I go down just as fast against one freep on a green reaver, the only way to be useful is to get a few skills and turn into a glass peashooter (cannon not being the correct expression).

    Three biggest problems in the moors, essentially around the same subject:

    1. New players are discouraged by a simply inability to compete.
    Problem: Audacity, eccentuated by lack of skills

    2. Reliance on raids/quests until you hit about rank 8.
    Problem: Lack of variety, which also doesn't help when trying to get into a game.

    3. Narrow mindedness/elitism in the majority of veteran players in the moors (including myself).
    Problem: We've been here too long and seen lots of players come and go, approaching new players/leading raids seems to be a waste of effort.

    That's how I see it. I'd also love a new map.... lol....
    I pretty much agree however with my green reaver i did find for some reason despite the frustration at many points there was a certain aspect of hilarity of its so bad its quite fun which I find odd also with the raid leaders I never saw much elitism most if not all raid leaders allowed greenies into raids which i am thankful for as i didnt fancy pve in the pvp area up to rank 7 where it became less useless . yeah soloing is still impossible the number of times ive entered into 1 on 1 with any freep and died especially mornaro (although when he finally does die he does drop a lot of inf so i stop trying to avoid him particularly) and cazikee (who is great at killing me within 3 seconds after going up 7 ranks ) although somehow for a lot of people i think the hilarity is never there or wears off very quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldlas;
    ... it's hardly like we're seeing Shinach's old warg raids - going up to 24 (ahh those were the days )
    Indeed. If people think its bad now getting ganked by a half dozen wargs those packs (super packs we used to call them) would have them spitting teeth. Twenty four wargs running around ganking everyone and everything, including soloers. By comparison the current crop of warg packs are rather tame.

    Wargs are always going to run in packs (personally I don't join many these days and I seem to notice a similar trend amongst the other high ranked wargs). It's just one of those things and by all means people can have a good moan about it (wargs actually love that), but truth be told they're not going away.
    Last edited by MrWarg; Jun 27 2012 at 01:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWarg View Post
    If people think its bad now getting ganked by a half dozen wargs those packs (super packs we used to call them) would have them spitting teeth.
    Well, not to me.
    You just need 3 wargs to kill me in 2 seconds, so the other 21 are useless.
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    The big difference between now and then are:

    a) wargs are much more effective than in SoA, to the point where two are an overkill for most freeps classes

    b) no more constant burg packs running around. This makes it so that only one side is annoyed by stealthers right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiNdA-LoS View Post
    Well, not to me.
    You just need 3 wargs to kill me in 2 seconds, so the other 21 are useless.
    3 to kill you, 1 to bring the popcorn, 2 to keep a lookout, 1 to track you, 1 to mourn you, 4 to use Rallying Howl after the kill, 1 to miss the kill, 1 to lead, 1 to be talking to the creep raid, 1 to not be in stealth when he should, 1 to tell a joke, 1 to FRAPS it, 1 to not have his in-game sound working, 1 to be complaining about freeps, 1 to act as RAT, 2 to be new wargs and not know anything and 1 to make the tea.

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    But 24 is fine to kill champs or battlemages (lol Berul)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWarg View Post
    3 to kill you, 1 to bring the popcorn, 2 to keep a lookout, 1 to track you, 1 to mourn you, 4 to use Rallying Howl after the kill, 1 to miss the kill, 1 to lead, 1 to be talking to the creep raid, 1 to not be in stealth when he should, 1 to tell a joke, 1 to FRAPS it, 1 to not have his in-game sound working, 1 to be complaining about freeps, 1 to act as RAT, 2 to be new wargs and not know anything and 1 to make the tea.
    You forgot "1 to not have enough comms/DP for Improved Stealth, and still be half the map away when you attack".

    Ah, Shinach-packs....
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    well if you guys really insist I guess I could go back to rolling wargpacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoronthor View Post
    well if you guys really insist I guess I could go back to rolling wargpacks
    Go on, I dare you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbercamp View Post
    Go on, I dare you!
    bah you called my bluff, cause I really cba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoronthor View Post
    bah you called my bluff, cause I really cba
    .......
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  21. #2521
    Event chat server.

    The address for the teamspeak chatserver for Sundays event will be:

    tlalotro.dyndns.org


    password l0tr01969

    (the 0s in lotro are zeros)

    You will have access to the server event group with creeps/freeps and officers rooms. The freeps have got all their groups sorted but I'm having difficulty getting in touch with creeps ingame as Im going on holiday Friday and havent spent much time on. If u want to lead a raid/group etc in the event creepside please pm me here or ingame for access to the leaders group. The creep and freep groups can be accessed by anybody, but please be aware you can only use one or the other. If you use both (ie for spying) leaders will get instant notification.
    Stop That! It's extremely silly!

  22. #2522
    soooo...

    What to do next 2 months
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    Mods must be watching this thread like hawks, too bad turbine doesn't invest resources elswhere, like monsterplay, or fixing this site after 5 years of beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flopzie View Post
    soooo...

    What to do next 2 months
    Careful http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...02#post6234302
    But ya. See you there!


    As well as
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6AQm3sxm3o
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    Quote Originally Posted by flopzie View Post
    soooo...

    What to do next 2 months
    log in and QQ abit maybe ?
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