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    Cool Creep Side Hit List

    Jacbo is numero uno... ooOOoo shiny rating. Burgs n rks are always at teh top as well...mostly rks, but burgs r tasty too.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Does this mean you will no longer be attacking hunters?
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Jacbo is always number one, he's the first to turn and run and leave his group to die, lol.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    I approve of this message.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Killed Jacbo a few times, he is replaced by Clourquen and Saelwood, reason being, they are poor sports and think its funny to relay that threw their rune-stones, Creeps I trust you will show them how we respond to that.
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    Unhappy Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Dang it, I thought I was your one and only, Bio! I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL GOING!! WAAAAAAAHHH
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by kabarman555 View Post
    Jacbo is numero uno... ooOOoo shiny rating.

    [...] Killed Jacbo a few times [...]
    Was trying to get silly Nute his R4 but he made too big of a group for it to count enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenring View Post
    Jacbo is always number one, he's the first to turn and run and leave his group to die, lol.
    Huh? Matter of perspective I suppose.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenring View Post
    Jacbo is always number one, he's the first to turn and run and leave his group to die, lol.
    This is correct, I see RKs/hunters/etc out past him.... Maybe try tanking and distraction instead of running back to EC? Hell if I'm about to get rolled Wahime will go out of his way to make sure he is targeted vs me(Defiler). I've seen it a lot people will get that 1400+ rating then all of a sudden turn into a total Pussycat and their play style changes. I saw Aces trying to do this and I threaten him about it had to smack him a bit before he stopped trying to puss out of it. Most of the freeps right now have that 1400+ rating now due to Zerging. Creeps on the other hand Are not really grouping hence the reason why everyone has a lower rating.

    Like I always say a great example is a Rank15 Burg with 5 stars is no better than a Rank5 Burg with 0 stars. If you want to know what burg is better try playing creepside and your answer will come true. Anyone can play a class and play like a total puss coming in for that last minute kill, killing a greenie etc. I've had 5 stars on Jakespeed before not on this server but another it was a pain to get but I would never do it again. Cuba hit the symptoms right on the nail. It goes on and on and its not just about burgs..

    Adobai this goes to you also I like your play style not afraid to die, now just put some skill into it and get at lease a kill or 2 before you die. Read your skills I notice you using skills at the wrong time and others as well. Takes time and practice and you could be a awesome burg!
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacbo View Post
    Was trying to get silly Nute his R4 but he made too big of a group for it to count enough.



    Huh? Matter of perspective I suppose.
    Lol, it is a matter of perspective, you never see it because your back's always turned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenring View Post
    Lol, it is a matter of perspective, you never see it because your back's always turned.
    It's not my fault if you scuttle behind me to spit at the junk in my trunk. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenring View Post
    Jacbo is always number one, he's the first to turn and run and leave his group to die, lol.
    I don't know Jacbo's playstyle and prefer not to judge if I can avoid it, although sometimes I forget my own philosophy. Even if what you said is true, I don't necessarily see that as being a bad thing. Let me explain before you again call me a freep lover.

    Remember Tib from Ark? Many on both sides couldn't stand his running away since he was a champ. But a few years ago when he was playing regularly, his running and a few other things he was doing got people riled up. I remember people getting all excited and tense and loud in tribe vent thinking they were going to get a kill on him, and then cursing afterward when they failed, or cheering loudly if they got him. His antics helped bring life to the Moors and gave people something to focus on and talk about. We would have had a few years of more average and possibly boring action if he hadn't done the stuff he did.

    Think what the server would be like if NOBODY ran, if everyone played the same. People probably think we'd have better fights, and maybe so, but it would take a lot of the personality out of the game. If everyone acted the same or played the same there'd be little variety, and variety is the spice of life.

    People like having targets to go after. Runners give both sides a target. I don't see that as being a bad thing in most cases. I'd much rather have people I try to go after for various reasons, whether it be running or something else, than go out and see the exact same playstyles each time. To me, that is boring.

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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by elderlygamer View Post
    Think what the server would be like if NOBODY ran, if everyone played the same.
    Think what the server would be like if EVERYBODY ran, if everyone played the same....

    Ah wait that's Dwarrowdelf, never-mind.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Freep sympathizer
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by kabarman555 View Post
    Think what the server would be like if EVERYBODY ran, if everyone played the same....

    Ah wait that's Dwarrowdelf, never-mind.
    I am guessing you are being sarcastic?

    Admittedly I've had little battle time here as most of my little bit of play time has been spent doing those stupid map quests, but I haven't seen a lot of running yet from either side. Most of what I've seen in creep pugs (Pariah stop PVE'ing already!!) has been this:

    1. Go in to the fight.
    2. Die.
    3. Retreat
    4. Run back.
    5. See #1.

    I haven't seen creeps running away en masse. I haven't seen freeps running away en masse either, probably because they're getting some decent kills.

    But again, as I said I've had little play time here. You clearly are more familiar with this community than I am. I just hope either you're being sarcastic or your perspective is jaded.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Bottom line is players will play the game in a manner that suits them and makes them enjoy it. If some want to play for Rating that's fine, or for Renown, or for Killing Blows, or for whatever.

    Personally I play just to have fun, and part of that is approaching fights in a manner that is tactically sound. For me that means playing on other's impatience or frustration if the situation demands it. It means chasing down a kill if I believe there's a reasonable chance of getting it, retreating if it can serve a better purpose(see: overextending) than standing around dying.

    Maybe you play differently for different reasons. That's fine. If it involves killing and dying it's fair play.
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    Ah proof, everyone remember this night when Aces forced 9 creeps to sit at ec crossroads for a half an hour against equal numbers of Ainur and spares. Clean open field fight availability. Instead the freeps opted to sit in npcs till they got tired of not getting fed and left... I want someone to deny it, I have the film to beyond any doubt prove it. An Ainur lead group would not fight RvR without npc support. I'm honestly ashamed.
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    Oh and #1 target is now Zidia, for allegedly getting angry for getting targeted. We killed you what twice? How many times did I die tonight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabarman555 View Post
    Ah proof, everyone remember this night when Aces forced 9 creeps to sit at ec crossroads for a half an hour against equal numbers of Ainur and spares. Clean open field fight availability. Instead the freeps opted to sit in npcs till they got tired of not getting fed and left... I want someone to deny it, I have the film to beyond any doubt prove it. An Ainur lead group would not fight RvR without npc support. I'm honestly ashamed.
    We were sitting in fields to your east, or your north, or circling around. The operative word here is fields, places devoid of trees to prevent LOS issues since your raid consisted of primarily melee classes while ours consisted of primarily ranged. We assumed you knew this by sending out scouts as we had, but if you did not then that's no fault of ours.

    Maybe you wanted to pick the battlefield, or maybe you just didn't scout us to see where we were, or maybe neither, I won't make baseless assumptions. The end result either way was an impasse, a stalemate where neither side opted to push the other.

    The responses to this moors curiosity were disparate though. While I told our guys that the creeps were playing tactically sound and could not be faulted, evidently you felt it necessary to come rave on the forums about how you have the high ground and we're all a bunch of cowards. Stay classy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabarman555 View Post
    Ah proof, everyone remember this night when Aces forced 9 creeps to sit at ec crossroads for a half an hour against equal numbers of Ainur and spares. Clean open field fight availability.
    Rofl we were in the open field sitting uphill by poor TR and other spots, you would not come out of the trees.

    Open= Affording unobstructed passage or view

    You didn't want to come out of the trees

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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Freeps have the advantage of being a more versatile class, creeps however will get slaughtered if they enter an open field head on against a turret of lightning bolts and arrows. I honestly believed you would push and roll us. I had a few vet creeps but most of em were pretty fresh (although they did follow orders spectacularly, good show). All I know is we pushed you all night, suffered heavy losses, took a few kills. I formed the raid because I figured to be fair we deserved our turn to give you a staunch fight. We took position, far from any creep npcs in the wood near cross roads. I scouted around and was even caught once but we held back. I counted your numbers at the start and we were even there, but as far as DPS ability and CC ability we were far out gunned. Heals were decent on my side but not when you have two burgs on them, so I decided to hold and fight from the trees to offer my wargs a chance to fight from slight cover. However you never pushed, instead you valiantly ran around us trying to eek further advantage your mobility could offer threw bears and eventually withdrew. From my point of view, yes I'd say whomever lead that raid played the part of a coward even if we did have the advantage (we did not). When was the last time you saw me charge into over-whelming odds with very little chance of success? You lacked something tonight. Honor might be a bit over the top for a video game but I do not know what else to call it.

    Its all fubar tho. Its a game, and you fear to take a chance. lol I'm not trying to QQ cause drama or even call you a noob, I am trying to change how you play. There will be no vet creeps on this server soon if the freeps continue to be lead like this, you have to take risks and sometimes you might lose...but when you take a risk and win, thats where this game gets fun.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    It's okay if we die a lot we keep pushing that's fine. We work for our Infamy. After all it makes us stronger for a Freep they get NOTHING besides some ugly cloaks, outdated horses and bragging rights to prove they are good at zerging. I always loved creepside more becuase the challenge is out there. As far as freeps hiding and not coming to us. I expect that they only win in numbers and npcs common Cuba you know that. And Ghank knows this also he is from Windy, so until he snaps and realizes he is on the wrong team we will have to expect this from them. They also do not know all the tricks in the moors like Wahime, Cuba, and I do you blame them for not trying to attack in a place they normally don't?

    We also do not start raids much maybe we should start doing that again and show them how it's done? We have alot of noob creeps on this server and the only way to make them learn is to have them raid with us. I would like to see Wahime lead again It's been along time and he has led ALOT of awesome battle over the years on windfola. We Shaped Ainur into what it is now and learned from it Cuba lets stick to what we do best and Creep.

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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by -Unknown- View Post
    This is correct, I see RKs/hunters/etc out past him.... Maybe try tanking and distraction instead of running back to EC? Hell if I'm about to get rolled Wahime will go out of his way to make sure he is targeted vs me(Defiler). I've seen it a lot people will get that 1400+ rating then all of a sudden turn into a total Pussycat and their play style changes. I saw Aces trying to do this and I threaten him about it had to smack him a bit before he stopped trying to puss out of it. Most of the freeps right now have that 1400+ rating now due to Zerging. Creeps on the other hand Are not really grouping hence the reason why everyone has a lower rating.

    Like I always say a great example is a Rank15 Burg with 5 stars is no better than a Rank5 Burg with 0 stars. If you want to know what burg is better try playing creepside and your answer will come true. Anyone can play a class and play like a total puss coming in for that last minute kill, killing a greenie etc. I've had 5 stars on Jakespeed before not on this server but another it was a pain to get but I would never do it again. Cuba hit the symptoms right on the nail. It goes on and on and its not just about burgs..

    Adobai this goes to you also I like your play style not afraid to die, now just put some skill into it and get at lease a kill or 2 before you die. Read your skills I notice you using skills at the wrong time and others as well. Takes time and practice and you could be a awesome burg!

    Thanks man I'm trying to learn. PvP in this game actually requires you to use your head and be patient For the last part, most of the time I get excited and hit the wrong button, otherwise I'm open for anything specific you've seen me do that just plain dumb.

    Its really tough for me at the moment because I'm 65 now and I am not willing to waste any special LI stuff on these junk LIs I have, I'm working on getting some decent LIs, and then I'll use SoE, etc.

    Always willing to learn more And yea when I'm going to die, I try to make it fun, don't have many options, but running is no fun when the safe zone is 100m away and 4 creeps are on me

    Cya round, thanks for the help!

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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    Quote Originally Posted by kabarman555 View Post
    Oh and #1 target is now Zidia, for allegedly getting angry for getting targeted. We killed you what twice? How many times did I die tonight?
    I said that when you guys had Ilthel at 2.5K, I walked up, your group dropped target and attacked me.

    I only got angry last night when my group let me heal them, then all the NPCs got on me and I died. I think my exact comment was I might as well solo.
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    mmm Zidia is still #1 because I think (among others) he rubbed off on the rest of the freeps too much. Creep Rufus or suffer my target calling.
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    Re: Creep Side Hit List

    For a Warden to have 1600+ rating you either run, zerg all the time or both. From what I seen tonight I would say all the above.

    The fights on this server sure have changed in a few months time from when I seen many 50's have more open field fights with same numbers, tonight the numbers got close and the freeps ran to EC and stayed. Is it really that bad for you to die? Your War Pages must really mean something to you if this is the case. lol
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