Oh my God. First off, throughout the thread I see alot of cross-hate between Liffey/Bluecheez and Dawlin/Etc. (started skipping pages after i realized it was all just bellyaching about namaste) But what stood out to me is that Beorning gets just thrashed by a couple of different people. My main toon is my Runekeeper, I've logged the most time as him. Beorning for the longest time has been brushed off to the side and left alone. I've really only been devoting attention to him for the last five months, compared to the two years everyone else has used to work on their wardens and focus on them. The fact that I can do what I do on Beorning is a clear indication of one thing, i'm already at the top of my game in PvE. PvP is going to be a focus for me eventually. The reason you see Beorning out in the moors with raids, standing back half the time and the other half running up and chunking EoB or JoDF in your Creep faces is simple. I am only trying to get enough renown right now to hit rank four for the sergeant-at-arms bracelet, so i'm being a raid baby to facilitate that. If I cared about getting kills or renown I would play a totally different approach to PvP. For example, 1v1'ing Rustynailz and winning as many times as losing. I'm pretty sure I'm a better warden than most. If you feel like giving me any more hate, feel free to vent your petty insecurities and squabbles on this thread. I'll be waitin'.