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    The Fat Lute - CLOSING DOWN



    Ok, so not really. But if the thread title made you say, "oh no!" then please read on. Don't freak out, TFL is NOT CLOSING DOWN. But without your help, there's a chance it will. I just need your undivided attention to bring you a very important message from Warden:

    Quote Originally Posted by Warden
    Ok, well this is difficult but good at the same time so I'm just going to get to it.

    I suppose its time for me to come out of denial and admit that that I'll never have the time or love to devote that TFL deserves. The code in the backend is just horrible; I'm quite ashamed of it actually. To do anything major will require a full rewrite and as sad as it is to say, I'll prolly never have that kind of time again.

    While I can't give anyone access to my server, I suppose I would be willing to hand the code and database over to someone crazy enough to take on the challenge of hosting it and becoming Figgy's next man-slave.

    The site is written in VB.NET 3.5 with MySQL 5.1 (but runs fine on 5.5). The Database is approx 1GB is size, and you'll need about 1-1.5GB of ram on the server for it to run ok as-is. The site will use up about 20-30 GB of outgoing traffic per month.


    If you're interested, you'd have to agree to the following:

    • Figgy will retain "The Boss" title. She loves that site more than she would her first-born, and hobbit babies are cute.
    • Just to be clear, I'm (we're) not giving up the site for another to have free reign over it. Whoever takes over development should be willing to work with Figgy a few hours here and there and discuss changes to the site with her and with the LOTRO community.
    • I will keep custody of the Domain and will update the DNS as needed.
    • No special treatment to friend or enemies; TFL is an equal enjoyment site.


    • Dont post my code to TheDailyWTF more that once a week. (Yes, its really that bad in there)


    Warden
    So there you have it. TFL is looking for a new home and supreme master coder. Since I've only ever dealt with the ideas/pretty side of TFL, I don't qualify for this position. Believe me, if I could, I would.

    The ideal candidate will love music and LotRO, have a sense of humour, and be bubbling with ideas. We are preferably looking for someone with their own server to host TFL on, so anyone that steps forward and ticks all the boxes would be great. However, if all we get is a coder with no server, we may be able to look into taking donations from the community to help us get up and running. But that's as a real last resort, as I don't know how the community would feel about that. From the looks of it, TFL provides much enjoyment for a lot of people, so I'd hope that if push came to shove, we'd get a little help.

    Anyone interested in becoming my new man-slave should contact me, which you can do by either posting here, sending me a Private Message on these forums, or emailing phuqt85@hotmail.com.

    Even if that doesn't sound like you, but you know of someone that would be happy to help, like a kinsman or an in-game friend that can do this stuff, please please please point them in the direction of this thread.

    I will keep my fingers crossed that we find someone soon, so we can shed the weeds and allow The Fat Lute to grow again.

    Thanks for reading,

    ~Figgy~
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    Red face Ya gots meh Figgy, and not even AFday.

    Yipes! Well ya got me with the title Figgs.

    Unfortunately I am not in leagues with any webmakering folks, and I barely fiddle with html at all anymore, and as a gal not elgible to be a man-slave *twitch* so I'm definitely not in.

    I wish you the best.
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    Re: The Fat Lute - CLOSING DOWN

    This is a bit alarming. I truly hope you will find a good soul out there that can take on this job. I am not a coder, nor do I have access to a server. And to be honest, as I have said to Bob in the past, I really don't have the time for such an endeavor either...

    I will say I think you will find someone though, there are many great people who play LOTRO, and play music, there is bound to be someone who will take this on.

    Good luck!!

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    Re: The Fat Lute - CLOSING DOWN

    I've got some experience with VB.NET and I'm quite familiar with databases (though not MySQL specifically). I'd hate to have TFL actually go down too...


    Lets talk sometime Figgy.
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    Re: The Fat Lute - CLOSING DOWN

    This needs to be bumped.

    TFL is still in an increasing state of disrepair.

    It still needs someone who can take it on as their baby and recode it and host it, and work with me to make it better. I've had a few people make offers, but no one seems to have what it needs to look after TFL.

    So please, if anyone reads the first post and thinks they can help, get in touch. You can either PM me on the forums, or find me in LotRO as Figgy or Palanwyn usually. My toon names are in my signature.


    Also, if you want to know what I'm looking to do with the site, I mocked up a very basic list of some possibilities:


    The Fat Lute: To Do List


    • URGENT
    • Fix front page errors while posting
    • Fix Edit/delete ABC function for admin and regular users
    • Add new servers to server list

      UPGRADING
    • Add categories/genres: ie Rock, pop, classical, theme song, musical etc
    • Add browse by letter: song/artist/uploader
    • allow comment editing
    • return statistics field: total songs/parts/members/downloads etc
    • add field for top 10 rated songs
    • new colour scheme/redo website < need someone here to bounce ideas around with
    • add "go to page" function
    • flag broken songs in main list
    • when creating a new ABC typing a name of a song or artist, have prediction on there to avoid some of the many similar postings
    • Automatically capitalize letters?
    • possibly integrate the ABC player for lotro into website to preview parts
    • subscribe to uploader function
    • add forums?
    • add request page?
    • donation button for hosting? depending on changeover
    • Suggestions page, where people can +1 suggestions, and post issues with the site, seperate from lotro forums to allow the ability to edit and mark issues as resolved.
    • so SOMETHINNG with the lolcats page delete? redo?
    • redo the recent activity box to make it a little more streamlined and clear, possibly change it to a recently added box.
    • update copyright info

      UPKEEP
    • Edit and update the tutorial page to include new programs
    • Edit the about us page, to include YOUR NAME HERE
    • Edit the Contact warden function
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    Re: The Fat Lute - CLOSING DOWN

    Hey,,

    I could do the site,, and host that server..
    Just let me know if u're still looking (:

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    DAYUM

    So let me get this straight, is the site only a placeholder or can we actually get files from it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athraen View Post
    So let me get this straight, is the site only a placeholder or can we actually get files from it?
    The files are actually there.

    What you'll want to do is create a blank text document (ie. *.txt) or abc file (ie. *.abc), then copy the song info (that is, everything from "X:1" to the end of the text) from the web page and paste it into the file. Put that file in your music folder and name it appropriately.

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    Hey any updates on the site? Im tryin to be patient just wondering really

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    Cool TFL

    Hi All,

    Quick update, because I think I've been pretty anonymous in this so far.

    I'm currently hosting/running the placeholder site, and very slowly, but very steadily, working on the new site.

    At this point I'd love to thank you all for the activity on www.thefatlute.eu - we're averaging over 60,000*** page views per month, from almost 2,000*** unique visitors. Stunning!

    The new site is almost ready (has been for some time, but just haven't been able to make time to complete it) for some 'beta' testing, but I just took a new job a few months ago, and I have a lot of other bits and pieces going on in real life also at the moment. It was pretty much ready around the time that Sapience (we love you really...) announced that the API was being dropped, so that set me back a bit trashing a load of code which I'd set up to integrate with it. Used this as an opportunity to have a bit of a clear-out of some obsolete code also.

    tl;dr:

    It's not died,
    It's almost ready (really... I promise!)
    Nice visitor stats on the placeholder - you guys rock.

    ~Ruu.


    ***EDIT: Just checked the stats, last 30 days:- 2,102 people visited this site, Pageviews: 72,579.
    Last edited by Ruu1989; Jul 06 2013 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruu1989 View Post
    Hi All,

    It's not died,
    It's almost ready (really... I promise!)
    Nice visitor stats on the placeholder - you guys rock.

    ~Ruu.


    ***EDIT: Just checked the stats, last 30 days:- 2,102 people visited this site, Pageviews: 72,579.
    thanks for the update
    very thankful for all your hard work, coding makes my brain hurt, kudos to you for stickin to it!

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    Thumbs up The Fat Lute is still there - http://www.thefatlute.eu/

    Just wanted to register my thanks for having kept thefatlute running in some fashion. It's what I cut my lotro musician teeth on. I have since found the FeFe Converter (which is also in a process of transition) and am doing my own conversions now. Nevertheless, thefatlute is what got me going in the first place and gave me my first glimpse into the world of abc music. Lotro music making seems to be on the rise and I'm sure thefatlute will inspire many other newby lotro musicians! Please keep up the good work!
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    I tried to go to http://www.fatlute.eu today and I got the Oops Google Chrome could not find... Is it temporarily down or is it down for good? Cuz this is/was my favorite abc music file site. If it's down temporarily when will it be back up?

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    I'm afraid you're right, Zaelocke. Hopefully it is just in the transition process that Ruu was mentioning earlier in July.

    In the meantime, if you haven't already found this link, here's a place where you can find links to other abc sources: http://lotromusic.mymiddleearth.com/resources/

    If you'd like to be adventurous and try to make your own abc tunes, there are a couple of midi converter programs available:

    http://firefern.rklotro.com/? (this is a powerful program but has a bit of a high learning curve)

    https://code.google.com/p/lotromidiplayer/ (I find this nice for making solo or 2 part tunes)

    And finally, if you do not have it, get the ABC Player so you can listen to your creations outside the game (so you don't have to go into and try out your new tune and possibly get embarrassed):P

    When creating your own abc tunes, note that not all midi's are created equal and some sound much better than others.
    Last edited by Belriel; Aug 11 2013 at 05:32 AM.
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    http://www.thefatlute.eu/

    It's still up. Used the link above in ru1989'S post and got right there.

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    Yeah, should have checked that first before I replied. Gotta have that "the" in the link or no working. >.<
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    that a man's real relatives are scattered throughout the universe, and seldom if ever belong
    to his immediate kin."...."Little Big Man"....Thomas Berger

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    What's the status of this project? I've been following this situation for quite some time and may be interested in taking charge of some of this if not all of it. I've got a dedicated box with a lot of room on it and have been a fan of what the site offers for quite some time. I'm also a web developer and if the website is no longer being worked on or the project was abandoned, I might be able to offer up an alternative so that the community as a whole has this resource available to them as it once was.
    You can message me through the forums for details. Thanks.

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    what happend to the Fat lute?

    http://www.thefatlute.eu/ has remained the same for awhile now, wondering if the update for this was canceled? still says it a placeholder for 2 years now...so just wondering
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    I have noticed the same.
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    Unfortunately, there is also no contact info to check on the update.
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