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  1. #26
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    Someone's probably done this already, but figured I would post it anyway, because it was kinda cool. Happened by accident with what is more or less our standard class makeup for the fight (2-3 Hunters + RK).

    1 pool.

    Before first fly-up:




    Edit: Meh, the forums size it down considerably, but the beast was 292k at the first fly-up (which is our record).
    Last edited by Aestis; Oct 12 2010 at 12:56 AM.

  2. #27
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    I've been wondering about the top kins and a one pool progress.

    Incredible man, well done.
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  3. #28
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    I posted about this in another thread, but I'm pretty sure the bird's resistances were lowered or something, because we got 1 puddle two times in a row on our first night in LT after f2p. We'd never done this before, gotten close but never before. Definitely a fun challenge though
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  4. #29
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    Nice!

    We got close to have 1 puddle once or twice. Were only a couple thousand away. Ever since the update though we've always had no more than 2 puddles.

    It seems like they kinda tried to make the fight easier but broke it at the same time
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  5. #30
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    LoM Cappy on DPS group ftw

    PS: Really impressive. Congratz FF

  6. #31
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    Quote Originally Posted by Comma44 View Post
    I posted about this in another thread, but I'm pretty sure the bird's resistances were lowered or something, because we got 1 puddle two times in a row on our first night in LT after f2p. We'd never done this before, gotten close but never before. Definitely a fun challenge though
    I think what you're seeing can best be summed up as: Blood Arrow FTW.

    I haven't done any before-and-after parsing, so take this with a grain of salt, but as expected Hunter DPS feels higher. BLA was the missing piece in what was kind of a clunky shot rotation beforehand. With the premium on focus, I secretly suspect Precision may now outperform Strength in terms of sheer DPS.
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  7. #32
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    On second thought you guys are probably right, it's not that bird takes more damage it's probably just the few small changes put together. Increased hunter dps (900+ parsed in strength) combined with the bird not stunning anymore and thus allowing melée to stay in and dps. Our cappies have stayed HOH for LT, but if you throw in a LOM traited cappy that's probably more than enough to get a good group to 1 puddle. I just found it suprising when it happened the first time we went in after f2p and we weren't even trying for it.

    As for strength vs precision debate, I'd take it to the hunter forums but we've had some very surprising parses coming from brandywine....
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  8. #33
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    ./Threadrevive ^.^

    Last night we got 260,875 before the first fly-up.
    We then proceeded to celebrate so loudly that we forgot to dps and failed to get one puddle by around 2-3k.
    Average of 429DPS per person..ish.

    Unfortunately, I don't have screenshot proof =( will have to bug kinnies and see if maybe someone was able to capture it.
    Last edited by onyxsunrise; Nov 04 2010 at 12:36 AM. Reason: Fail math.
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  9. #34

    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    We usually have the first flyup at about 300k, then either have one puddle or barely miss it and get the second flyup at ~155k.

    We actually only had one puddle in our 'melee + 2 minstrels' (no hunts/RKs/LMs) kill the other day, which was surprising.

    No incredibly convincing screenies, but here are a couple:
    http://img607.imageshack.us/i/screenshot00056.jpg/
    http://img607.imageshack.us/i/screenshot00057.jpg/
    Last edited by TraitorJoe; Nov 04 2010 at 09:16 PM.
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  10. #35
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    Yep, Resistance on Brandywine regularly does 1 cloud now as well. Seems pretty trivial as to the group makeup, the most important part seems to be properly timed oathies, melees never getting punted, and 1+ burglars.

    Our best first phase fly up value is 262k. Working on trying 4-5 burgs next time to get ZERO clouds O_O

  11. #36
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    before f2p:
    Managed to get 1 pool with a regular setup group with 2 healing RK in dps(no minstrels)

    And one of our best 'scores' was a melee oriented DPS group, 3 burgs, 2 champs 1 hunter, we ended up at 9k off from 1 pool but our 2nd oathbreaker missed. So was there by a mile and crashed :P

    after f2p:
    still need to try... EU *cough*
    Last edited by Ubbarina; Nov 05 2010 at 12:28 PM.

  12. #37
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    Re: Lt. 1st Phase Fly-up Values

    Did it last night with 2 Burgs - a rare luxury for us.

    1st fly-up was at 310,00 and there was no second fly-up.
    Typical for us lately is closer to 350-370K unless we stack Hunters/Burgs.
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