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    I hate escorts ...

    I always have problems with escort quests....

    Vol I.7.8 (Gates of Carn Dum) .... Having trouble keeping Lorniel alive, even with inspired greatness. Anyone else have problem with this quest? .. Any suggestions?

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    I don't. My first car was an Escort. A diesel, in fact. Got 40-45 MPG back when diesel was like $0.80 a gallon. I could drive for weeks on a single back seatful of pop bottles. Wasn't exactly a chick magnet, though...



    That's pretty much it, but mine was silver.

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    On topic:

    No, unfortunately, I don't. Best of luck.

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Totally deleted my Escort postings.
    Found them to racey for the younglins on the forums.


    As for on topic. I dont mind the quests to escort if the escort knows how to heal.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    I had to do this a few times before I got it.You really need to keep the aggro off of her as much as possible.I just kept switching my target to whatever was beating on her.Also running ahead a bit to grab aggro on the next pull helped too.

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Escort quests are an annoyance because the escort AI is typically incredibly stupid. There are some things you can do to level the playing field, though.

    -If you know the path the quest is going to take, you can clear NPCs along the path before starting the quest to minimize the chance of picking up adds or pathers that aren't part of the quest.

    -If the quest follows a linear progression through pre-spawned NPCs (usually you see this in an instance), you can stay just ahead of the escort and pull NPCs. This will usually cause the escort to enter a combat state as they run to help you. That will normally prevent them from pulling more adds further ahead, and they will return to their original position after the NPCs are dead due to the pathing logic. This buys you extra time to recover/run ahead and pull your next group.

    -If the quest is on a path that at specific intervals spawns waves of NPCs, you can play this a few ways. One is to stand behind the escort and shoot past him into the oncoming NPCs (I'm thinking of the dwarf cook in Ered Luin with the spiders as an example). The NPCs gain aggro on you, and will run past the escort to you. This gives you time to burn one down as they close the distance, and it again breaks the escort off his path so that once the NPCs are dead, you have some extra time while he goes back to his path interrupt point. Alternately, you get slightly ahead of the escort (this would depend on how far in advance the NPCs spawn on the escort's path). This is where something like Bard's Arrow, Rain of Thorns, or traps really comes in handy. The more NPCs you can lock down, the better you can manage burning down whichever one the escort is whacking on. Rain of Arrows works, too, to grab aggro on a group before the escort can get in range.

    Aside from that, Needful Haste will help you get attacks off faster which is really the key to escorts. You need to burn down NPCs as fast as possible, and only attack what needs to be attacked. You don't always need to kill every NPC in sight, especially if you're not going to cross into their aggro radius. Remember that the quest objective is to get the escort to safety while staying alive yourself, nothing else.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BerensBane View Post
    I always have problems with escort quests....

    Vol I.7.8 (Gates of Carn Dum) .... Having trouble keeping Lorniel alive, even with inspired greatness. Anyone else have problem with this quest? .. Any suggestions?
    Yeah, that quest is a bit of pain. She has a habit of aggroing everything in sight.
    With the inspired greatness though, you are way less squishy. Just use rain of arrows or select each mob in turn and quick shot, and you'll be able to get the aggro off her. She can deal with one, maybe two mobs beating on her.

    Also there is a point where she will stop and tell you to go around and push a lever - kill everything before you push the lever. Makes life a lot easier.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    I hate escort quests. The character running ahead, no chance to go through loot and then trying to fight off things too. If they just ran away and cowered somewhere it would be better. But nooo, instead they try and fight off things with nothing more than a household butter knife.
    Thankfully Rain of Thorns is awesome. And Bards Arrow isn't too shabby either. Try those out.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by CWood View Post
    I don't. My first car was an Escort. A diesel, in fact. Got 40-45 MPG back when diesel was like $0.80 a gallon. I could drive for weeks on a single back seatful of pop bottles. Wasn't exactly a chick magnet, though...
    Wait, wait, wait just a minute there.....it wasn't a chick magnet? Get outta here! Psh, if a guy pulled up in one of those bad boys, how would one resist?
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by pocoemme View Post
    Wait, wait, wait just a minute there.....it wasn't a chick magnet?
    Well, actually it sorta was, 'cause it was a car that I could use to drive places. It's not like anyone really has a good car in high school.

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    I need 1 more page to complete my book for rain of thorns, so I may wait until I get that to give it another try. Also wasn't making good use of bards arrow so I'll give that a try as well. Thanks for all the reply's and suggestions.

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Oh escorts aren't all that bad.. cheaper than a girlfriend most of the time.

    Yea i tried that one twice got destroyed both times.. I gave up on it.. Not worth it. And having made it that far finally after all the times I escorted Sara oakheart Im done with escorting people out of trouble.

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Escort NPC are high maintenance...

    "Oh, SAVE me! Thanks! What's that in that dark coner? Oh, SAVE me! Thanks. Let's go ask those orcs for help. Oh, SAVE me... aaarrrgggg. Okay, go back and do it right this time."

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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by PalinNC View Post
    Oh escorts aren't all that bad.. cheaper than a girlfriend most of the time.

    why own when you can rent?











    aight, not winning any friends on the forums today. hooker jokes after admitting I'd been arrested? (but who hasn't been arrested? oh yeah, most of you guys!)

    Escort quests are seemingly made for every other profession than hunters. I've been clearing quests/deeds just to do so, and alot of the quests that I've had issues w/ are small fellowship escorts. even VASTLY overlevel escort nubs like to run into 5 guys and get themselves proper faceplanted.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by kerryak View Post
    aight, not winning any friends on the forums today. hooker jokes after admitting I'd been arrested? (but who hasn't been arrested? oh yeah, most of you guys!)
    Hooker jokes are always a plus. And hookers don't play mmorpgs so you don't have to worry about them reading that.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BerensBane View Post
    I always have problems with escort quests....
    The reason people have trouble with escort quests is simple. The escort NPCs are idiots.
    biggest examples: Lalia, Sara Oakheart, and Amarthiel. they aggro everything.

    also the dwarves in Death from Below in Mirkwood. hard to believe dwarves are that squishy.
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    Re: I hate escorts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BerensBane View Post
    I always have problems with escort quests....

    Vol I.7.8 (Gates of Carn Dum) .... Having trouble keeping Lorniel alive, even with inspired greatness. Anyone else have problem with this quest? .. Any suggestions?
    Did this with fellowship before the change.


    Might try traps to momentarily hold mobs (by you and away from her). Triple traps and combat traps if you have the trait. A few quick traps might be useful later since they can or supposedly can be set up in the middle of a fight.

    Otherwise, the only suggestion is get all the mobs on you (maybe rain of arrows and quick shot anything else) and kite them. Let Lorniel attack one of them (it should be chasing you) and help her as often as opportunity allows, if you can maybe barbed arrow for the bleed. You'll have to decide whether you have enough space to use any induction shots.

    Use Quick shot in strength and Low Cut to put a short snare on mobs so they chase you and not beat on you. Cut down on how many might be hitting you even the damage reduction from inspiration has its limits.

    If you can you might want to go in with a partner or two since that merely reduces your inspiration but the extra help might be real helpful. Four plus means fellowship time and no inspiration so avoid that.

    Hope any of this proves helpful. Good luck.

 

 

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