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    Jomo, you seriously gonna call me a whiner for calling it out exploits? I dont exploit, and i expect others to do the same. By ignoring it, it basically makes you an enabler. If I'm gonna use a legit out of combat speed boost that i gotta spend time in the delving to get, I expect that it didnt go wasted. Look, I'm not a person who gives a ???? about dying out there. I die a ton, and i dont care. Its part of it. But, in the process of doing so, I dont wanna die to cheaters. These horse speed buffs as well as the health and power pots in the store are not suppose to be used in the moors. This was a topic hit hard in the Bullroarer forums when these things came out, and a blue name responded that they would not be useable in the moors. I just find it ridiculous that people gotta do that ????, dont support it.

  2. #2102

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruun View Post
    Jomo, you seriously gonna call me a whiner for calling it out exploits? I dont exploit, and i expect others to do the same. By ignoring it, it basically makes you an enabler. If I'm gonna use a legit out of combat speed boost that i gotta spend time in the delving to get, I expect that it didnt go wasted. Look, I'm not a person who gives a ???? about dying out there. I die a ton, and i dont care. Its part of it. But, in the process of doing so, I dont wanna die to cheaters. These horse speed buffs as well as the health and power pots in the store are not suppose to be used in the moors. This was a topic hit hard in the Bullroarer forums when these things came out, and a blue name responded that they would not be useable in the moors. I just find it ridiculous that people gotta do that ????, dont support it.
    If I see someone doing something I think is against the rules ingame I would probably report but I am not going to harp on it over and over. It is not ignoring but I do not need to waste my breathe on it.

    In regards to these buffs and pots I have no idea what you are talking about but again I buy nothing in the store hence why I have so many points.8)
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderchickn View Post
    I'm just talking about people cheating in an online video game, if you want to turn it into a life lesson that's up to you. If you're referring to my first post on the issue, it was actually answering a question and giving my opinion what would constitute exploiting. Because it seemed like someone was unsure what exploiting was.

    If being vocally opposed to people cheating is whining, then I'm a whiner. I think you can speak out against things without being a whiner in any situation. I also don't have to accept exploiting to play in the Moors. I am against cheating to get ahead, and I still play in the Moors despite those who do it. Feel free to pretend you know me, though.

    Of course there are people who are going to do whatever they want to do regardless of if it's cheating or not. Some people are just like that, they look for the easy cheating way over anything else. They would fall under the category of those too ignorant to understand what they're doing is wrong just because they're aren't being punished.

    It's called integrity.
    Well said. Unfortunately exploiting is part of gaming, and there will always be exploiters.

    What's sad is that freeps need to exploit. Seriously?
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    My comment had zero to do with exploits, actually. But I can address that really quick:

    I'm not convinced that using the horse speed pots is 1) an exploit or 2) a real advantage. Since being in the Moors is supposed to be about pvp, running from a fight opportunity means you're missing the whole point, not really benefiting, might as well go do chicken play.

    Which brings me to my comment, which was in reference to that heap big pile o' doodoo dumped in the moors last night. Both sides playing some new "pvp avoidance" minigame.

    Out of 25+ freeps last night, only 6 seemed to want to actually fight. And I could not convince any of the fraid groupie creeps to stick around and fight them with me. Tip of the hat to Inoobie's group for wanting to play.

    Outnumbered 2:1 and the freep raid brings in Goldie? That was the final straw and I had to log and come vent the harshest way I could on the forums, since I don't swear. But I was really close to swearing last night.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Moors is the moors and has not changed since ever really. People are going to find ways to "exploit". The walls of TR and Lugs were exploits, that is why you cant do it anymore. Getting on rocks is not, creeps can get to then, minus a couple (there are a couple out that that can be jumped on by freeps and melee creeps cannot get them). There are known exploits in EC and OC from what I know, I have no clue if these were fixed. This is the way I see it. If you can get yourself in a spot where the world can see you, but cannot damage you, its a bug (exploit). If there is a way for you to take damage, then its just cheesy, but not an exploit.

    As for small grouping, soloing, and raids: Druz, you talk about small grouping, but I never see you in any sort of small group. Unless there is less than 6 creeps on, then you are. You are never solo, and if your are you are running from contact. Dont get me wrong here, not talking smack, its an observation. If what I am seeing is different let me know. I bring a raid out for sure one night a week, Wednesday nights. That leaves 6 OTHER nights you could be doing this small group thing you are talking about, which, for the most part is what I do. I am mostly in a group of 4-6 on the RK half the time, solo a lot, and raid few (This does not mean that I am not around other freeps, I go where the food is). , burg is 90% solo and I move him all around the map.

    You talk about this "running around finding challenging fights" once again I do not see it. This very well could be because the majority of the freep population does not move around either. I move from GTA to GTR on my RK often to find something other than a TA shuffle and I never see a creep unless they are mapping into GTA to swim across, or the occasional dog.

    If you want what you talk about, you need to then think outside the box and move around. If the creeps get away from TA the freeps will too, and vise versa. If you want to encourage small group and solo play, dont send a zerg for 3 opponents (this is freeps and creeps). This how it goes, I have see it many times....

    Someone's mighty blow topples someone
    someone succumbs to their wounds
    OOC: Someone: creeps/freeps camping <insert spot here>
    OOC: Someone else: How many?
    OOC: Someone: 3-4
    OOC: Someone different: omw
    OOC: <several others>: omw
    that 3-4 gets zerged by all the creeps/freeps out.
    The way it should go:
    OOC: I need 2 others to assist me in taking out a couple freeps/creeps, who would like to help?
    This last example calls attention that there is a roaming group without calling out position. I seriously doubt that whoever does this, does not receive the help they are looking for. So then you have put together a small group and are now ready to hunt down the small group to fight. (This does not mean lets invite the entire server to a group to take out a couple people.

    I have seen Blod lately with a smaller group at least engaging the freep force on TA with flanks, at least this is different from standing in the door and pew pewing. Gilgaresh will go to the rez with a couple, cheer him, this is at least moving fights somewhere else.

    This biggest problem here is population. If there were more population, there would be more people to fight on both sides and then folks would not go after an OOC call out like they have not eaten in 2 weeks. That and the fact that creeps and freeps here have both succumbed to fighting on TA lawn. With a larger population, freeps and creeps would be forced to move, because TA would become a lagfest. This would help promote small group action. Unfortunately, we do not have the luxury of the big 3 so we have to deal with what we have got until turbine can figure out a way to merge worlds for PvMP without causing huge problems.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Hello all, just thought I'd check in while waiting for the servers to come back up. I haven't been able to play much at all for the last couple of months due to "army training". But now I have a few days free time before we fly out for Afghanistan later this week. I've only been back out in the moors a couple of times, but it's already been lots of fun. I do hope I will still get to play LotRO from over there, but bandwidth issues may make the Moors impractical. Not to mention the time differences, I doubt I would get to log in during peak times here.

    Anyway, thanks again for the good times so far, it's been a blast seeing everyone again. And the creep charge across WTAB last night specifically to take me down out of everyone there really made me feel special.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Pork you definetly make some good points but the real problem is the advantage to sitting in Ta doorway. If turbine removed oil and arrows the immortools wouldnt sit there all day long :P

    just my 2 cents
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    I lol at the thought that there's a creep zerg on standby to run to OOC calls. Most nights I play 6-10pm mountain time and from 8-10pm there's usually < 12 creeps total, against 20+ freeps. Last week's Wednesday night was an anomaly, not a norm.

    Bust up the nightly freep pve ball, then you can complain about whether the creeps are actually running in small groups or not.

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    Re: Ettenmoors

    only really 2 things to say, 1st although i do have my differant opinions than druzik, i can tell you 1 thing about him and will defend him. i have creeps in the immortals (immortools) whatever you choose to call them, and 90% of the timeeven when the whole tribe is raided up, Druzik is solo, so calling him out like that.... totally wrong, like i said some of my opinions differ from the guy but he solo's almost all the time and has balls the size of dump trucks. so cheers to you druz for what you do. if your gonna blast him at least know what you are talking about. #2 the walls in TR/lugz fixed??? i guess maybe the termites have gotten in there lately then b/c we constantly see/track a certain hobbit mini inside the walls there.idk maybe she is lost.

  11. #2111

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdwhiskey1978 View Post
    This biggest problem here is population. If there were more population, there would be more people to fight on both sides and then folks would not go after an OOC call out like they have not eaten in 2 weeks.
    I couldn't agree more. When both sides have a reasonable chance of success, the fights seem to have a chance of moving about the map. Unfortunately, that balance is difficult to achieve, and even harder to sustain over time. More often than not, the imbalance at any given time dictates that one side holes up for defense while the other becomes the aggressor. Nothing will change that. The best remedy is getting as many as we can out here to enjoy PvMP. I hope people keep encouraging friends to give the Moors a try (so they can get hooked like me).
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Quote Originally Posted by nomad1971 View Post
    only really 2 things to say, 1st although i do have my differant opinions than druzik, i can tell you 1 thing about him and will defend him. i have creeps in the immortals (immortools) whatever you choose to call them, and 90% of the timeeven when the whole tribe is raided up, Druzik is solo, so calling him out like that.... totally wrong, like i said some of my opinions differ from the guy but he solo's almost all the time and has balls the size of dump trucks. so cheers to you druz for what you do. if your gonna blast him at least know what you are talking about. #2 the walls in TR/lugz fixed??? i guess maybe the termites have gotten in there lately then b/c we constantly see/track a certain hobbit mini inside the walls there.idk maybe she is lost.
    Dude, did you not read my post? I said I wasnt talking smack, just making an observation. Perception is reality bud. People can say the same things about me.

    You cannot get on the walls of TA and Lugz, its fixed, so whatever you are tracking your not reading your map right. I never called the Immortals Immortools, I never result to name calling if I am trying to do something contructive. If you say all this about Druz, I have yet to see it, after pvping on this server for 2+ years wit the guy. So we must be in 2 different moors or something.

    Clarrow, I said creeps and freeps both. I never said there was a creeps zerg standing by, what I was saying is when there is a confirmed location of "food", both sides flock to it, even you cannot deny this.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorDeath2 View Post
    I couldn't agree more. When both sides have a reasonable chance of success, the fights seem to have a chance of moving about the map. Unfortunately, that balance is difficult to achieve, and even harder to sustain over time. More often than not, the imbalance at any given time dictates that one side holes up for defense while the other becomes the aggressor. Nothing will change that. The best remedy is getting as many as we can out here to enjoy PvMP. I hope people keep encouraging friends to give the Moors a try (so they can get hooked like me).
    Absolutely correct blod, I am actually looking forward to turbine opening up the moors to FTP. I think this will bring some needed numbers out to the moors.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck4444 View Post
    Pork you definetly make some good points but the real problem is the advantage to sitting in Ta doorway. If turbine removed oil and arrows the immortools wouldnt sit there all day long :P

    just my 2 cents
    I actually do not mind the oil and arrows, it provides a deturrent for unbalanced numbers. What will end the TA standoff is for people to move away from there, but as I eluded to before, it will not happen until we actually get some more numbers on our server.

    This in no way means we should not try to do it, I encourage people to move around, find a circuit, run it, see what you can see, come back to the fights if you find nothing, but keep doing it. Eventually, people will start to see there are fights to be had away from TA (hopefully), and then we can find some nice alternatives to lawn fighting.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkerinthemist View Post
    My comment had zero to do with exploits, actually. But I can address that really quick:

    I'm not convinced that using the horse speed pots is 1) an exploit or 2) a real advantage. Since being in the Moors is supposed to be about pvp, running from a fight opportunity means you're missing the whole point, not really benefiting, might as well go do chicken play.

    Which brings me to my comment, which was in reference to that heap big pile o' doodoo dumped in the moors last night. Both sides playing some new "pvp avoidance" minigame.

    Out of 25+ freeps last night, only 6 seemed to want to actually fight. And I could not convince any of the fraid groupie creeps to stick around and fight them with me. Tip of the hat to Inoobie's group for wanting to play.

    Outnumbered 2:1 and the freep raid brings in Goldie? That was the final straw and I had to log and come vent the harshest way I could on the forums, since I don't swear. But I was really close to swearing last night.
    Hiya -- so as I'm sure you are aware, getting irritated with the other side often comes with misconception on what the other side is doing. I thought I'd share our perspective on what was going on. From our perspective, we had a good group, and the creeps had a good group (I didn't see you out during this time btw), and we kept trying to find the creeps to have a nice open field fight. Instead we'd roam around for long periods of time finding no one, and go PVE something to get their attention. Every single time we'd get to a point where we had a LOT of npc aggro on us, a huge number of creeps would show up and we'd of course get crushed due to the combo of npc aggro (typically including a tyrant) and the creeps themselves. So we kept trying to figure out ways to A. get attention to where we were so we could have a good solid fight, and B. not get ourselves into a situation where we had a bazillion NPCs on us. We'd wait a while and go ahead and take a keep or whatever because frankly that's all we had left to do with no creeps appearing. We could find like a few small groups of creeps but it's no fun killing 2 creeps with 24ish freeps. Rinse repeat -- went to the delving at one point for something to do. Came out and tried to find creeps more. I think this is where you came in - we found y'all at TR and were expecting some serious resistance. Given the previous encounters it seemed like bringing goldie was the only way we could make it a fair fight. Turned out there weren't enough creeps to have warranted goldie so I mean ... sorry? We did have a pretty cool fight up at Isen soon after that that we lost miserably but was entertaining. (again while we had the NPCs on us)

    Long story short, it really was just a night of both sides couldn't get in sync worth a ####. I know some folk figured the creeps were doing it on purpose, but I more or less just believe it was unintentional. Clearly y'all thought we wanted to PVE instead of PVP which was far from the case. =)

    Anyway, sorry you weren't having any fun. We weren't either. FWIW I've never been in a freep raid that WANTED to PVE out there. I've joined one before (and actually only one) and I dropped it pretty quick. That's not to say they don't exist. Just wanted to relay how things went from my perspective. Sounds like you got caught in the middle of it all.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    The maintenance . . . it burns us ... =/
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    I've ben avoiding posting cause of all the drama, and was about to put up a pretty large
    post on all the BS on the last few pages but I'll avoide alll the extra drama and just say this. Turrbine dosen't care about us, not worth complaing to or about them I relized that along time ago. They pressent more problems for themselfs trying to make a quick buck rather than a good game. They're a bussines thow so can't realy blmae them, but it is sad and pathetic either way. As for all the other BS people are stupid and ignorant myslef included, mostly all the forums is, is a place to vent cause its the same stupid propblems normaly from the same stupid people over and over again. Some want attention (the exploiting ......), some love to BS while do exactly what the complain about (high ranked reaver, myself and just about every fool on these forums) and some just love the drama.
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    Boobies then?
    droggo

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    Quote Originally Posted by droggo99 View Post
    Boobies then?
    Sometimes in the fury and frenzy of a passionate debate, we tend to lose sight of what is really important. Well said, sir. Well said.
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    Quote Originally Posted by droggo99 View Post
    Boobies then?
    less qq, moar boobage
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    I support Droggo's platform. Where are the polls so I can vote? =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestrata View Post
    Guys, I removed the haikus because they called out another player for in-game actions and insulted him.

    The forums are not the place for these types of messages. They violate our community guidelines and will result in actions being taken by the moderation team as detailed in the community guidelines. We strive to promote an environment where everyone can speak freely and discuss the game -- not a place to start "drama."
    Hold Up. You're telling me the "So why are you* on Rahb's nuts?" thread wasn't gonna work, huh? And here i was, thinking it would be a therapeutic way to get all their feelings out into the open. But ok bossman, i see you. You must be the new sheriff in town, something like that? I say that only because you definitely weren't around for a few of the epic player-blasting posts that have come gone over the last few years without any GM action. And with all do respect kind sir I'm glad that you weren't. I for one thoroughly enjoyed all the name calling, accusations, personal attacks, etc. that came my way. All it did was make me lol, no biggie. This must be an extreme and sudden enforcement of already long existing policies that we're once ignored. And you are the enforcer. And i can respect that. Its too bad though that Turbine assigns valuable resources such as yourself to censor trivial forums posts. If only they allocated them better, we might not be playing on the same map for 4 years...
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    Re: Ettenmoors

    holy snikeys.....is this a rhab post i actualy agree with???!!!

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    Good reasons for a post to be deleted:
    Cursing at player
    Racism or general filth

    Reasons posted actually get deleted:
    A quaint hiaku was made with some good humored jibbing and clever language.

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    blah blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    go die in a hole

    its for voodoo.
    i hope it doesnt get deleted.
    im still working on it.
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