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  1. #5301
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    Those freeps that xfered over should have brought their creeps instead

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  2. #5302
    Still better then pre U6 moors, U9 was great just needed a couple tweaks. The fate/will changes and new jewelry are just ridiculous.
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  3. #5303
    Quote Originally Posted by colefire2 View Post
    Still better then pre U6 moors, U9 was great just needed a couple tweaks. The fate/will changes and new jewelry are just ridiculous.
    Couple that with freep BFPs and the all around brand/insignia nerfs and it's just a... winning update. Too many creeps jumped ship to freep side, highlighting and exacerbating the problem further. Each one of these, on their own and properly balanced probably would have been fine, but all at once was an avalanche that has all but wiped out Ark PvP, at the very least.
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  4. #5304
    U9 was as balanced as I've seen things since I've been playing. There were some things that needed tweaking (OP buffs for example) and the MBs drove me nuts (was all in favor of creeps having better CC removal/avoidance, though). However, u10 with the FAs, jewelry like you wouldn't believe, BFPs, changes to fate, will and crit mechanics....... just wrong if you want anything close to balance!
    Last edited by Nouri; Mar 20 2013 at 01:38 AM.

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  5. #5305
    Easy fix...keep the bfp's. Make it so freeps can only use moors gear/weapons and jewlery in the moors and pve gear/weapons and jewlery in pve land. Throw some 3rd/2nd agers on the class barters and a slight update to the jewlery(don't go nuts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by puvi View Post
    Easy fix...keep the bfp's. Make it so freeps can only use moors gear/weapons and jewlery in the moors and pve gear/weapons and jewlery in pve land. Throw some 3rd/2nd agers on the class barters and a slight update to the jewlery(don't go nuts).
    I don't think that would work well for new freeps that don't have any pvmp gear though.

    Think they just should have removed or nerfed the MBs and left my rank brand alone so I could run screaming solo into TR once in a while.

    It didn't seem too terrible on Sunday, except I forgot my brand doesn't give immunity any more and I ran into TR to catch Casino afk. He wasn't afk and I wasn't stun immune so it didn't go the way I planned. I died a few times but i also killed a couple solo and I had some fun fights against wardens, fun like shoveling snow in a blizzard fun. But I don't RvR any more at all, so maybe that's bad and I just don't know it.
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  7. #5307
    I see it more as an issue that the creeps who were used to being ridiculous OP now are not. Its disheartening when this happens but put on your big boy pants and cope. I had to when my champ wasnt nearly so OP at the start of the last update.

    lol bet that pissed a bunch of people off enjoy....
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  8. #5308
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilantuk View Post
    I see it more as an issue that the creeps who were used to being ridiculous OP now are not. Its disheartening when this happens but put on your big boy pants and cope. I had to when my champ wasnt nearly so OP at the start of the last update.
    Last update was probably the closest to balance it's been with just a couple of issues (Mordi brands and numbers imbalance). So it's not a matter of "creeps were used to being op", but a real issue now and all the things I mentioned in my above post touch on these. But especially the numbers; Ark unfortunately tends to have a lot of fair weather players... on both sides. We saw it last update with creeps and we're seeing it this update with freeps, it's sadly how our community seems to swing anymore. We lack the consistent creep and freep power houses that we used to have to off set the swingers.
    Last edited by xxforcardassia; Mar 20 2013 at 11:14 AM. Reason: Typo - stupid phone auto corrections
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  9. #5309
    Maybe if freeps just started being ***holes to everyone we would scare off the fair weather freeps...
    Jag

  10. #5310
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    Quote Originally Posted by colefire2 View Post
    Maybe if freeps just started being ***holes to everyone we would scare off the fair weather freeps...
    Best. Idea. Ever.
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  11. #5311
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    Just a question OMGPLEASEDONTATTACKMEFORASKING THIS

    Would taking away the dual comms stop the flipping? As in, force players to choose which toon to develop?

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  12. #5312
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkerinthemist View Post
    Just a question OMGPLEASEDONTATTACKMEFORASKING THIS

    Would taking away the dual comms stop the flipping? As in, force players to choose which toon to develop?

    RUNNINGAWAYANDHIDINGNOW
    What, you mean having creep only comms and freep only comms? If only this had been implimented when the comms system first came out...

    It might not entirely stop flipping, but it'd make it more difficult to run with max audacity toons on both sides and encourage people to choose one and stick with it. However, most people already have full audacity, so it'd be too little too late if they added in something like this now.
    Last edited by Fafoo; Mar 20 2013 at 11:52 PM.
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  13. #5313
    Theres not much you can do to really stop anyone from flipping to the other side, people will do it if one sides OP or if the other side is out owning it up.

    Hopefully creeps get alota love next update, gets annoying seeing the creeps who are sticking it out there get toppled by raid babies lol

    /Oph sucks still
    Last edited by colefire2; Mar 21 2013 at 12:15 AM. Reason: Forgot to mention Oph sucks
    Jag

  14. #5314
    Glad to hear things are still the same, albeit (by the look of the comments here) a population shift occurred between the factions again. Thank god WoW pvp is still awesome.

    Wish I had the motivation to bother logging to help out creepside, but then again it will probably just be the same martyrs there who played freep when the balance was shifted the other way, and vice versa.
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  15. #5315
    Why wouldn't a better-scaled ON buff that does a better job of tying renown/infamy rewards to risks work? If it worked right, it might encourage peeps to switch to the outnumbered side instead of the way things work now where the side w/ the most peeps typically gets the lion's share of the infamy/renown and mastery buffs, and then steamrolls the other side w/ their buffs and numbers. Reward mechanics that favor the dominating side do nothing but encourage the type of flip flopping that makes things so dang zergy.

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  16. #5316
    Quote Originally Posted by colefire2 View Post
    T
    /Oph sucks still
    You're right. That Ophlon guy is such a noob.

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  17. #5317
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    just play what makes you happy. same complaints have been occurring in the moors for YEARS re: one side op, not enough on one side, too much pve, yadda yadda yadda. it's never gonna change. just play what makes ya happy, even if it ain't lotro.

    for example, here's me playing wii bowling this morning with my friends:



    scored a spare!
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  18. #5318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafoo View Post
    What, you mean having creep only comms and freep only comms? If only this had been implimented when the comms system first came out...

    It might not entirely stop flipping, but it'd make it more difficult to run with max audacity toons on both sides and encourage people to choose one and stick with it. However, most people already have full audacity, so it'd be too little too late if they added in something like this now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nouri View Post
    Why wouldn't a better-scaled ON buff that does a better job of tying renown/infamy rewards to risks work? If it worked right, it might encourage peeps to switch to the outnumbered side instead of the way things work now where the side w/ the most peeps typically gets the lion's share of the infamy/renown and mastery buffs, and then steamrolls the other side w/ their buffs and numbers. Reward mechanics that favor the dominating side do nothing but encourage the type of flip flopping that makes things so dang zergy.

    I like the idea of changing the incentives AND the mechanics to try to get a more even playing experience regardless which side you choose to log in on. I like the idea of fixing the ON buffs to actually benefit the outnumbered side instead of creating more imbalance when all the OPs flip to one color.

    Even if "everyone" has their audacity now, that's not what I meant to prevent. I meant to prevent flipping to the easy side to earn comms to deck out your toons. Rolling greenie creeps so you can afford to buy something for your freep. Maybe keep it shared on either side so all your creep alts or freep alts can benefit, but not creep/freep freep/creep.

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  19. #5319
    Quote Originally Posted by elderlygamer View Post
    just play what makes you happy. same complaints have been occurring in the moors for YEARS re: one side op, not enough on one side, too much pve, yadda yadda yadda. it's never gonna change. just play what makes ya happy, even if it ain't lotro.

    for example, here's me playing wii bowling this morning with my friends:



    scored a spare!
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  20. #5320
    The Australian Brushturkey or Australian Brush-turkey, (Alectura lathami), also frequently called the Scrub Turkey or Bush Turkey, is a common, widespread species of mound-building bird from the family Megapodiidae found in eastern Australia from Far North Queensland to Illawarra in New South Wales. It has also been introduced to Kangaroo Island in South Australia. It is the largest extant representative of the family Megapodiidae and is one of three species to inhabit Australia. Despite its name and their superficial similarities, the bird is not closely related to American turkeys, or to the Australian Bustard which is also known as the Bush Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyturack View Post
    The Australian Brushturkey or Australian Brush-turkey, (Alectura lathami), also frequently called the Scrub Turkey or Bush Turkey, is a common, widespread species of mound-building bird from the family Megapodiidae found in eastern Australia from Far North Queensland to Illawarra in New South Wales. It has also been introduced to Kangaroo Island in South Australia. It is the largest extant representative of the family Megapodiidae and is one of three species to inhabit Australia. Despite its name and their superficial similarities, the bird is not closely related to American turkeys, or to the Australian Bustard which is also known as the Bush Turkey.

    I blame Apartheid. So lets all listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LgcDpTH47g
    I don't even know what you just said.....but cheers to you anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLoaf View Post
    I don't even know what you just said.....but cheers to you anyway....

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  23. #5323
    Fun fights tonight all, had alot of fun.
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  24. #5324
    So......anyone else up for letting this thread die and from now on just having nothing but grat's threads for those who rank? It would at least stop giving the impression that we have active PVP or any sort of interesting drama so that poor people like, The Dauntless don't waste their money transferring here.

    Instead we can replace the Ettenmoors thread with:

    A.) Raid Progression Thread: What kin's have done TA Tier 2 Challenge? (One greenie creep was present during the capture FYI).

    B.) Good Fight's Thread: Good fight XYZ group, we took great pleasure slaughtering YOUR group with poor class composition and only 75% of the people didn't know how-to-play their class! Hope to see you tomorrow night when OUR group has no healers and not a single rank above 6!!!!

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    I'ma need you to calm down.
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