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    Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Dear Turbine,

    I've strayed, I'm sorry.

    I've been playing other games. I started seeing other MMO's a little while ago, and it was a casual, no strings attached type relationship. I always came back to you for content, questing and my MMO needs, but recently, I think we have both changed.

    When we first met, you were so full of life, there was so much to learn about you, and also we had plans for a great future together, but now to be brutally honest, I really don't see us together two years from now. It's not that I don't want to, it's just that I just don't know where we are going.

    I have tried to tell you I need more from this relationship, just a confirmation of where things are going, maybe I am too needy, I don't know. I've been here through good and bad, and it's been mostly good, but I'm so very sorry, I have been seeing other MMO's, and what's worse, is that I've been enjoying them too.

    I feel guilty, upset, even like I've let you down. I know you've had family issues as of last week, but I've been with you for nigh on three years now, and I just need to hear those three little words....

    New expansion soon.....

    I hope you will forgive me, and I do hope we can talk more going forward, but since I can't see a future for us together, it makes things very hard and I want to be excited, enthusiastic when I play you, I want to see us together for a long time, it's just with other MMO's out there, you make it hard for me to show you the commitment you need from me too.

    In closing, thanks for all the good times, I hope you can open up to me, I'm there for you.... always...

    Fondest Regards,

    Zodiac xxxxx
    Last edited by Noromir; Apr 29 2010 at 01:42 PM. Reason: Damn it, typo in title, see what you've done to me!! :(

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Nicely written...

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Break-ups are always sad.

    At least you didn't give excuses, like "its not you, turbine. its me!"
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    I actually found that letter deeply disturbing.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintBass View Post
    I actually found that letter deeply disturbing.
    Come on StBass, what you really wanted to say was roll an alt. LoTRO is not boring and there are so many things you can do

    @OP: Farewell my friend. Very well written and there are so many ppl on the same boat as you. So many ppl who actually developed a very special relantionship with LOTRO as a game and a detachment is hard to take... But like you pointed out, there's no real choice here.

    I understand Turbine doesn't give two cr aps about old timers since a lot of them are lifers. Revamps of LL and whatnot are the focus of Turbine. But like I wrote endless times before, the game has all potential to be an all-round MMO with both newbies and vets together. But if only newbies are atracted and vets are "invited" to leave with other options out there, let LoTRO with the newbies... It's sad and I wish it could be different.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel View Post
    Come on StBass, what you really wanted to say was roll an alt. LoTRO is not boring and there are so many things you can do

    @OP: Farewell my friend. Very well written and there are so many ppl on the same boat as you. So many ppl who actually developed a very special relantionship with LOTRO as a game and a detachment is hard to take... But like you pointed out, there's no real choice here.

    I understand Turbine doesn't give two cr aps about old timers since a lot of them are lifers. Revamps of LL and whatnot are the focus of Turbine. But like I wrote endless times before, the game has all potential to be an all-round MMO with both newbies and vets together. But if only newbies are atracted and vets are "invited" to leave with other options out there, let LoTRO with the newbies... It's sad and I wish it could be different.


    Hehe just to mention, and I need to make this clear as there was a misunderstanding previously, this is not a farewell thread, just to mention I'm looking around to compliment my gaming, maybe not a bad thing, but I hadn't done this in the past.

    I'm reading a lot of stuff on other forthcoming games and am getting excited already, I just wanted to feel like that with LOTRO, that is all!

    My first love will always be Tolkien's universe, but I need that carrot of information to keep me happy. If you don't ask you don't get, and putting it in this form, I hope it puts a humorous slant on proceedings. I wish there was more info to share about how things are going to move forward, I want more LOTRO, not less!

    That said I do feel that there does need to be a more robust end game, as that is something to be excited about as you level up an play, always something to aim at!

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Oh yay! Another State of the Game™ thread! At least this one was creatively written, I suppose.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    Dear Turbine,

    I've strayed, I'm sorry.

    I've been playing other games. I started seeing other MMO's a little while ago, and it was a casual, no strings attached type relationship. I always came back to you for content, questing and my MMO needs, but recently, I think we have both changed.

    When we first met, you were so full of life, there was so much to learn about you, and also we had plans for a great future together, but now to be brutally honest, I really don't see us together two years from now. It's not that I don't want to, it's just that I just don't know where we are going.

    I have tried to tell you I need more from this relationship, just a confirmation of where things are going, maybe I am too needy, I don't know. I've been here through good and bad, and it's been mostly good, but I'm so very sorry, I have been seeing other MMO's, and what's worse, is that I've been enjoying them too.

    I feel guilty, upset, even like I've let you down. I know you've had family issues as of last week, but I've been with you for nigh on three years now, and I just need to hear those three little words....

    New expansion soon.....

    I hope you will forgive me, and I do hope we can talk more going forward, but since I can't see a future for us together, it makes things very hard and I want to be excited, enthusiastic when I play you, I want to see us together for a long time, it's just with other MMO's out there, you make it hard for me to show you the commitment you need from me too.

    In closing, thanks for all the good times, I hope you can open up to me, I'm there for you.... always...

    Fondest Regards,

    Zodiac xxxxx
    Dear Zodiac,

    Since when did you get the idea that this was a monogamous relationship? You knew from the beginning that I couldn't tie myself down to just one player. The nature of my job means I have lots of customers that I have to please and I cant focus all my talents and energy on pleasing just you. If you think I'm saying that your too needy then maybe that's true.

    I hate to see you go but to be honest all those other MMO's out there cant make you feel the way I do. I not going to say goodbye because we can still be friends. Just realize that when you get tired of all the others, the best will be waiting for you.

    Cya, Lotro

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    Dear Turbine,
    Usually this signifies the start of a rant. I was pleasantly surprised to find the letter that followed. I agree with many of the sentiments expressed here, although maybe not the extent of the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    I know you've had family issues as of last week...
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    Hehe just to mention, and I need to make this clear as there was a misunderstanding previously, this is not a farewell thread, just to mention I'm looking around to compliment my gaming, maybe not a bad thing, but I hadn't done this in the past.

    I'm reading a lot of stuff on other forthcoming games and am getting excited already, I just wanted to feel like that with LOTRO, that is all!

    My first love will always be Tolkien's universe, but I need that carrot of information to keep me happy. If you don't ask you don't get, and putting it in this form, I hope it puts a humorous slant on proceedings. I wish there was more info to share about how things are going to move forward, I want more LOTRO, not less!

    That said I do feel that there does need to be a more robust end game, as that is something to be excited about as you level up an play, always something to aim at!
    You are very fickle. The first pretty MMO that comes along and you are gone. And when you get tired of 'her' you expect to be welcomed back with open servers?
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by BerensBane View Post
    Dear Zodiac,

    Since when did you get the idea that this was a monogamous relationship? You knew from the beginning that I couldn't tie myself down to just one player. The nature of my job means I have lots of customers that I have to please and I cant focus all my talents and energy on pleasing just you. If you think I'm saying that your too needy then maybe that's true.

    I hate to see you go but to be honest all those other MMO's out there cant make you feel the way I do. I not going to say goodbye because we can still be friends. Just realize that when you get tired of all the others, the best will be waiting for you.

    Cya, Lotro
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    Hehe just to mention, and I need to make this clear as there was a misunderstanding previously, this is not a farewell thread, just to mention I'm looking around to compliment my gaming, maybe not a bad thing, but I hadn't done this in the past.

    I'm reading a lot of stuff on other forthcoming games and am getting excited already, I just wanted to feel like that with LOTRO, that is all!

    My first love will always be Tolkien's universe, but I need that carrot of information to keep me happy. If you don't ask you don't get, and putting it in this form, I hope it puts a humorous slant on proceedings. I wish there was more info to share about how things are going to move forward, I want more LOTRO, not less!

    That said I do feel that there does need to be a more robust end game, as that is something to be excited about as you level up an play, always something to aim at!
    My new MMO is called RL. And it's been amazing in the last 3 months.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by BerensBane View Post
    Dear Zodiac,

    Since when did you get the idea that this was a monogamous relationship? You knew from the beginning that I couldn't tie myself down to just one player. The nature of my job means I have lots of customers that I have to please and I cant focus all my talents and energy on pleasing just you. If you think I'm saying that your too needy then maybe that's true.

    I hate to see you go but to be honest all those other MMO's out there cant make you feel the way I do. I not going to say goodbye because we can still be friends. Just realize that when you get tired of all the others, the best will be waiting for you.

    Cya, Lotro

    Awesome response!

    I still think something to look forward to and future plan information is beneficial to all, so we'll have to wait and see, just with nothing on the horizon, I dunno, I'm an enthusiastic guy, so like news to keep me going!

    I am ashamed to say I spent one night (and it was that long) with a recent major science fiction MMO release, I can't even remember her name..... I woke up the next morning feeling used, substantially out of pocket and totally empty.

    I can back to LOTRO then, I probably will again!

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel View Post
    Come on StBass, what you really wanted to say was roll an alt. LoTRO is not boring and there are so many things you can do

    @OP: Farewell my friend. Very well written and there are so many ppl on the same boat as you. So many ppl who actually developed a very special relantionship with LOTRO as a game and a detachment is hard to take... But like you pointed out, there's no real choice here.

    I understand Turbine doesn't give two cr aps about old timers since a lot of them are lifers. Revamps of LL and whatnot are the focus of Turbine. But like I wrote endless times before, the game has all potential to be an all-round MMO with both newbies and vets together. But if only newbies are atracted and vets are "invited" to leave with other options out there, let LoTRO with the newbies... It's sad and I wish it could be different.
    It had all the emotional tear jerking of an actual "Dear John" letter but was about video games... and those two things evoke very different emotional responses from me... having them collide was not pleasant.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Best "I'm leaving the game" post I've ever seen. Nicely done.

    I agree with the sentiment, but I am remaining committed to LOTRO for the time being. When I signed on for a "Lifetime membership" I meant it
    Going on Hiatus until this statement becomes true:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel View Post
    My new MMO is called RL. And it's been amazing in the last 3 months.
    Indeed.

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel View Post
    My new MMO is called RL. And it's been amazing in the last 3 months.
    Been there, done that. It has more problems than LOTRO:

    1) The grind for gold is outrageous
    2) It takes like an entire year just to get 1 level
    3) End game involves a nursing home
    4) Perma-death sucks
    Going on Hiatus until this statement becomes true:
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    To the OP, and his/her original letter....

    Well Written
    Well thought out
    Clever
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel View Post

    I understand Turbine doesn't give two cr aps about old timers since a lot of them are lifers. Revamps of LL and whatnot are the focus of Turbine. But like I wrote endless times before, the game has all potential to be an all-round MMO with both newbies and vets together. But if only newbies are atracted and vets are "invited" to leave with other options out there, let LoTRO with the newbies... It's sad and I wish it could be different.
    Just wanted to point out that I'm an 'old timer' and yes, a lifer and I really enjoyed the LL revamp. Very good use of Dev time that benefits a lot of players.

    That is all.
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by KainXI View Post
    Been there, done that. It has more problems than LOTRO:

    1) The grind for gold is outrageous
    2) It takes like an entire year just to get 1 level
    3) End game involves a nursing home
    4) Perma-death sucks
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by KainXI View Post
    Been there, done that. It has more problems than LOTRO:

    1) The grind for gold is outrageous
    2) It takes like an entire year just to get 1 level
    3) End game involves a nursing home
    4) Perma-death sucks
    Humm not necessarly

    1- Got my GF back
    2- Have sex again
    3- Don't bother about RNG. It is what it is in RL.
    4- Stopped smoking (8 months and counting and certainly the stress-free content isn't making me go back)
    5- More time for friends.
    6- More cultural and fun activities.
    7- I can follow Pearl Jam everywhere without bothering with my spot on the SKL

    For all that, thanks LOTRO
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by Noromir View Post
    Dear Turbine,

    I've strayed, I'm sorry.

    I've been playing other games. I started seeing other MMO's a little while ago, and it was a casual, no strings attached type relationship. I always came back to you for content, questing and my MMO needs, but recently, I think we have both changed.

    When we first met, you were so full of life, there was so much to learn about you, and also we had plans for a great future together, but now to be brutally honest, I really don't see us together two years from now. It's not that I don't want to, it's just that I just don't know where we are going.

    I have tried to tell you I need more from this relationship, just a confirmation of where things are going, maybe I am too needy, I don't know. I've been here through good and bad, and it's been mostly good, but I'm so very sorry, I have been seeing other MMO's, and what's worse, is that I've been enjoying them too.

    I feel guilty, upset, even like I've let you down. I know you've had family issues as of last week, but I've been with you for nigh on three years now, and I just need to hear those three little words....

    New expansion soon.....

    I hope you will forgive me, and I do hope we can talk more going forward, but since I can't see a future for us together, it makes things very hard and I want to be excited, enthusiastic when I play you, I want to see us together for a long time, it's just with other MMO's out there, you make it hard for me to show you the commitment you need from me too.

    In closing, thanks for all the good times, I hope you can open up to me, I'm there for you.... always...

    Fondest Regards,

    Zodiac xxxxx
    I have also been here for 3 years .. I only wish I could of written this myself. I do understand that many Fanbois will disagree with this because regardless if they play 3 hours a week or 50 hours a week they will always support what they feel is important ( I would love to know how many Fanboi support arguments are from family members of Turbine or employees’ themselves. ) Turbine when it comes to the LOTRO community with so many faithful members should realize that they have a responsibility of informing them with anything.. I accepted the whole *SOON* means soon comment when it was a joke here on the forums but that has been over a year ago now. I also would like to hear something on where the game is going.. Anything.. How hard is it for the Dev's ..or the Community mangers to answer such a simple question..?



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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    It's pretty obvious they are saving an announcement for this years E3 Expo.

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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Nothing wrong with playing other games. That's the main reason I still have fun playing after three years. Since I started playing this on launch day Ive dabbled in WoW, Age of Conan, Star Trek Online and various single player games.

    I just can't play just one game or one MMO. I get burnt out. There's a lot of really good single player games out there. Right now Im playing the Witcher. God, I love that game!
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    Re: Dear John, I think I'm ready for new on a content update/expansion, sorry....

    Quote Originally Posted by VONNER View Post
    I have also been here for 3 years .. I only wish I could of written this myself. I do understand that many Fanbois will disagree with this because regardless if they play 3 hours a week or 50 hours a week they will always support what they feel is important ( I would love to know how many Fanboi support arguments are from family members of Turbine or employees’ themselves. ) Turbine when it comes to the LOTRO community with so many faithful members should realize that they have a responsibility of informing them with anything.. I accepted the whole *SOON* means soon comment when it was a joke here on the forums but that has been over a year ago now. I also would like to hear something on where the game is going.. Anything.. How hard is it for the Dev's ..or the Community mangers to answer such a simple question..?



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