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    Re: WTB champs

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    lmao yeah I wasnt refering to that situation.

    You letting all the creeps farm your burg on the other hand? Well thats a different story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    Having a bow equipped is perfectly plausible for a 1v1, but you can't have the movement hit penalty allowed otherwise you fire it on the run like an idiot and lose out on AA.
    What? no. It's coz when you go in for the hit, if you are animating a bow shot, you miss out on your much better melee weapon AA.

    You could switch between the bow and instrument between melee range and when you are kiting out to 8m+, but I found that a hassle & alot of excessive clicking.

    In any case it's like a 100-150dmg from a bow shot and 36 (more now? I can't remember if they bumped it up) is reflected to you through blood of fire.

    Bow is stupid.

    You use challenge to stay in combat. That will keep you building fervour and prevent the reaver from charging (Ie. when you need to kite longer past the 9 seconds OOC limit you challenge when it's been 7 seconds since you hit them.)

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    Re: WTB champs

    Victi was talking about the fact that you can have a bow equipped and nver fire on the run bow AA's with the hit chance penalty on move box checked, so that anything being fired that will have and on the move +% to miss chance won't be fired unless you're stationary so you can still get the ragned defense by having a bow slotted but I always gays on your back.

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    Re: WTB champs

    It's hard to type walls of text on an iPhone so forgive miss-types hehe

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    Oh I see...I kinda don't like that idea though...the bow IS useful on the run on two occasions:

    1. if you have someone that is trying to run.
    2. Trying to LOS/break combat through trees/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGsam View Post
    ...but I always gays on your back.
    Wait...what?

    I guess we go to different bars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beornling View Post
    Wait...what?

    I guess we go to different bars

    Hahahahaha that was an iPhone failtype which is why I made that second post :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGsam View Post
    Hahahahaha that was an iPhone failtype which is why I made that second post :P
    Sure it was

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    Re: WTB champs

    Quote Originally Posted by Beornling View Post

    I fight champs/guards/hunters/capts & burgs (depending on how much of a CC spammer they are) without dev strike to make it a fairer fight.
    guards and burgs can both work reavers tho

    on nimrodel tho - LM's are one of the easiest freeps to beat on the reaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beornling View Post
    Oh I see...I kinda don't like that idea though...the bow IS useful on the run on two occasions:

    1. if you have someone that is trying to run.
    2. Trying to LOS/break combat through trees/etc.
    If the creep is trying to run, it'll get away if you have nothing but your bow to keep it in combat. It's far less useful to have it fire-on-the-run then not. Wargs and spiders will get away, plain and simple. Reavers... are dumb to run, but that's just imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    If the creep is trying to run, it'll get away if you have nothing but your bow to keep it in combat. It's far less useful to have it fire-on-the-run then not. Wargs and spiders will get away, plain and simple. Reavers... are dumb to run, but that's just imo.
    /shrug

    I've chased creeps half way across the map with the bow.

    Actually last night I kept a warg in combat long enough to get another sprint off & almost had him dead (he called in backup; if I had got the sprint 5 seconds earlier I would have been far enough from the map point to get my inf before the gank The warg even apologised for calling a solo champ out & acknowledged I had him beat.)

    Not every warg only comes out with sprint and/or HIPs up. You only need to keep them in combat long enough for your sprint to come off CD. So usually around 30secs-1min. Sure, spiders will flat out get away if they simply beeline it for the hills & your sprint is on CD for too long...but you can play possum with them coz they are ranged.

    Yes Nam, gaurds and burgs are very tough, but if they both don't crit often it is an all too easy win with dev; at least it's an interesting fight without it. As I said, not everytime; fight by fight basis. I got destroyed last night by a guard I didn't take seriously and didn't even have a chance to dev haha.
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    Re: WTB champs

    lol bad wargs.
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    110% in-combat run speed, they just walk away. Period. If they don't trait it then they're either too low rank (Not a threat) or typically the type that needs his friends help anyways.

    Eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    110% in-combat run speed, they just walk away. Period. If they don't trait it then they're either too low rank (Not a threat) or typically the type that needs his friends help anyways.

    Eh.
    Wow, you really need every scenario spelt out to you?

    No spider is going to keep running when you stop chasing. They are ranged...they will turn to spit and follow. Use that fact to your advantage.
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    No doofus, wargs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    No doofus, wargs.
    Long strides is +5%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beornling View Post
    Long strides is +5%.
    the r5 racial is another +5% =110%

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    Shows how long since I played my warg haha.

    in that case you make a QQ thread on the forums about wargs...coz there's clearly not enough of those. But as I said, I was able to catch the warg I was following with sprint. Or you could laugh it off given that a rank 5+ warg is running from a champ and find another fight.
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    I made a joke warg called challengmode and got Dafros hunter down to 400hp having my last 2 mauls miss, I only spent 2k DP on savage fangs, fully green ring, they are hard lmao.

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    I don't think you'd find very many people that would disagree with you.

    But as a champ I'd still rather fight a warg than a reaver (given that I don't like doing the thing you need to do as a champ to beat the latter.)
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    Re: WTB champs

    So why cant champs apply slows to wargs? im confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beornling View Post
    I don't think you'd find very many people that would disagree with you.

    But as a champ I'd still rather fight a warg than a reaver (given that I don't like doing the thing you need to do as a champ to beat the latter.)
    Hell no. I had more victories tonight alone on R6-8 reavers in fervour over warg, all it takes with their re****ed positional+ DoT's is one CJ to proc, mind you I've had up to 3 proc on in me one fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fladrif View Post
    So why cant champs apply slows to wargs? im confused
    Probably something to do with their absurd avoidances, I've had upwards of 5+ hamstrings all get consecutively avoided but that also really applies to reavers. But all things considered the warg slow lasts 30s and if you've both slowed eachother the warg will still catch up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGsam View Post
    I made a joke warg called challengmode and got Dafros hunter down to 400hp having my last 2 mauls miss, I only spent 2k DP on savage fangs, fully green ring, they are hard lmao.
    lol yeah now my hunters pretty much on the shelf after that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dafroisweet View Post
    lol yeah now my hunters pretty much on the shelf after that...
    Ahahaha well blame turbine for making even a greeny warg close to ./facerollable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    Hell no. I had more victories tonight alone on R6-8 reavers in fervour over warg, all it takes with their re****ed positional+ DoT's is one CJ to proc, mind you I've had up to 3 proc on in me one fight.



    Probably something to do with their absurd avoidances, I've had upwards of 5+ hamstrings all get consecutively avoided but that also really applies to reavers. But all things considered the warg slow lasts 30s and if you've both slowed eachother the warg will still catch up to you.
    I hate to fight both, but I think I would take a warg over a reaver. The last 1v1 night we had I only lost to one warg who was rank 7 that used 3 CJs and had their Scratch and snip or whatever it's called crit for 700 each. I think the reason I win against wargs more is that they're much more predictable than reavers. With all of these new, stupid people playing wargs because they're easy to play now, I know when I get a crippling bite, a pounce is incoming for the CJ.

    As for the BPEing a bunch of hamstrings, I've had the same thing happen. I trait for my horn not being BPE'd sometimes and I've still seen it be evaded by wargs.

 

 
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