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  1. #1
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    Sword and Board Healing

    Hi guys, i know this question has probably been asked a million times, so 1 more won't hurt.

    Is it better to run sword and board when healing in instances like SG and SH or in raids?

    If so, what is the best shield for sword and board healing at lvl 65 and where do i get it?

    And, What legacies make a good 1 handed healing weapon?

    Thanks a ton guys, i'm sure i'll get a lot of opinions

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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    In general, healing is slightly better with a sword and board. However, with the changes to weapon speed with SoM it doesn't make anywhere near as much difference as it used to. I'll still support and solo heal using a 2h, with the bonus's to ICPR from relics/settings you shouldn't run out of power.

    The time to use a sword and board is if you are having trouble healing or taking damage from AoEs (admittedly you shouldn't but it happens ).

    In terms of a shield I can't help, I haven't used one since moria, although from memory the critted loth shield is quite nice.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    There's a nice barter shield, dunno what else since I don't use a shield.

    most legacies on your weapon don't really affect healing. +PA targets/DB&PA crit, but I wouldn't bother making a weapon just for healing if you don't have those.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick25 View Post
    Hi guys, i know this question has probably been asked a million times, so 1 more won't hurt.

    Is it better to run sword and board when healing in instances like SG and SH or in raids?

    If so, what is the best shield for sword and board healing at lvl 65 and where do i get it?

    And, What legacies make a good 1 handed healing weapon?

    Thanks a ton guys, i'm sure i'll get a lot of opinions
    The primary advantage to using a 1H-shield setup for healing is that you can organize relics and stats more suitable for healing, at least from my understanding and experience. For example, I always have a shield that has a decent amount of ICPR and Will/Fate/Vit or some combination thereof. My 1H, then, has relics appropriate for healing as well (will/fate gems, ICPR, +morale, etc.). The actual legacies don't matter much, but I always make sure to have -Kick for utility purposes, just in case. To Arms would be nice too for SB. My 2H, on the other hand, has relics/a crafted relic appropriate for DPS. There is that bit of additional defense as well in tougher situations when you can't afford to lose the healer, I suppose.

    I know that before the combat mechanic changes in SoM, your skills were queued in-line with auto-attacks, and thus the slower your weapon, the longer it took to get a particular skill like Kick off. That was one reason for a 1H-shield healing setup--so you can get heals and such off faster when necessary. Now that isn't a big deal.

    It's not critical that you use a 1H-shield combo for healing, but there are reasons why you might want to.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    I have been trying out a healing 1H + shield setup for BG bosses recently, instead of my normal halberd, when I do not have to be in melee contributing a lot of DPS. I figure if I'm going to be standing off to the side backup healing, why not throw as much stats on to support that role? My usual emblem also has all the proper healing legs+relics. I can always swap back to halberd for beating on Durchest or something anytime.

    The important legacies it has are telling mark and to arms. I put in the will stat legacy as well.
    The relics I put in are
    Platinum Setting Of Hardiness: +15 Vitality/+15 Might/+15 Agility
    Moonstone Gem Of The Sundering Sea: +15 Will/+15 Fate/+960 Tactical Rating
    Deep Rune Of The Mountains: +150 Morale/+100 Power/-2.5% Attack Duration
    Symbol of Vigor: +390 Outgoing Healing Rating, +390 Tactical Critical Rating

    I'd like the T8/T9 versions, but these make do.

    My current shield is http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Armou...n_Light_Shield
    but I am after http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Armour:Gornthan from HoC, for the extra power and morale.

    I've found my words of courage crits for 1100+ regularly with this setup, not to mention the HoTs, taking off quite a bit of stress from the real healers.

    As for stuff like SG,SH, etc. it's pretty much not necessary when you can spam rallying cry anyways.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    I dont really use a shield while healin but i think ill have to do some testing to see if it helps me. i do carry around a shield for when i need to tank (since im almost always the other heavy in the group... it always seems to be me/guard or me/ward... ). its alot of help to have the shield when youre MTing the boss after the tank goes down.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    Good legacies on a 1h weapon you will use with your shield when healing:

    -Melee skill power costs
    -Cry skill power costs
    -Kick CD
    +PA targets (you will be up front healing and this helps open up RC)
    +telling mark damage (You are helping kill faster and hence less time for other to take damage)

    I still say To Arms if you will use it should be on a buff stick.

    Those legacies will give you power savings when adding to the DPS and when healing.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    There's a nice shield that drops from the Sword Halls, normal mode (Celecthan? I think, can't remember), that has nice ICPR and resists.

    If you decide not to go the LI route for your weapon, I think the best sword for ICPR is the one from the 3-man instance in WW (can't remember the name of that one either! sorry).

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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    I only use Sword and Board for healing in a few very select fights, or if one of my minstrels goes down in a raid.

    I keep a 1st Age Filikul weapon with To arms, Telling Mark, Cry power cost, Maxed Relentless Attack. I wouldn't normally keep RA on a real weapon but 1215 Crit is hard to pass up these days. I also use the Shield from HoC to keep a decent power pool without sacrificing too much.

    Great for fights like the Blind One where I only ever hit him with Valiant Strike when its up.

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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick25 View Post
    Hi guys, i know this question has probably been asked a million times, so 1 more won't hurt.

    Is it better to run sword and board when healing in instances like SG and SH or in raids?

    If so, what is the best shield for sword and board healing at lvl 65 and where do i get it?

    And, What legacies make a good 1 handed healing weapon?

    Thanks a ton guys, i'm sure i'll get a lot of opinions
    Started using sword and board about 2 months ago. Have noticed increased heals, and a little more on damages, but not significant. Legacies are posted by previous posters, and they have made very valid points. Use S&B in SH, SG, and all the Moria instances, has made another kinnie cappy wanting to try the same. There are some decent boards from the instances that are great for cappy's...choose the one that suits you and your style, but fate is usually what i look to increase. 1st age one hander with healing, power reduction, and pa and db crits.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    I would say a 65 3rd age might be better for this just so that you can use T9 relics and crafted relics.

    Remember just bacuase you are S&B healing does not mean you will be sitting back spamming WoC all the time.

    You will still be at the front contributing to DPS, healing though skills like Inspire and Valiant Strike.
    You want that high crit, you want +PA Targets, you want telling mark, the only change you are doing is that you are now less efficient on power so things like -Cry costs and -Melee costs come into play more.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    If you PvMP some...this is a good shield too depending on your needs:

    http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Armour:Chieftain's_Shield

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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    I've been thinking about switching to sword & board myself, for the bit of added ICPR, Agility, and Will. As such, I would go with the Superb Lorien Light Shield.
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    Re: Sword and Board Healing

    When you finally decide to take the plunge into Sword and Board, remember that you should have more then one shield for different situations.

    There will be times when ICPR is useless to you as in the LT fight. There will be times when the raw power and better defenses against tactical will be better.

    Always have more then one shield at the ready and equip as necessary.
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