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  1. #1
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    Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Greetings fellow captains, the one class were discussion never ceases. Personally, I run HoH with DPS jewellry as I like to be able to stay higher in the aggro ladder than a medium armour wearer and do most of my healing through melee skills and RC.

    I have been trying to close in on 15% (4500) melee crit rating for some time, though I also find agility is less important than I once thought. However, with IDOME and the War banner and Agility food you can easily turn 500 agility into 636 without sacrifing other stats. I think between that and using two melee offense/crit crafted relics and two tier 9 relics with crit it is possible to achieve 15%.

    So has anyone tinkered with this? Id like some input on is the frequency of reactionaries opening with 12-13% crit rating and using healing crafted relics vs going for the 15% crit. Does having that extra 2-3% crit chance give up too much healing?
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    no I haven't, but I can tell you that "DPS jewellery" won't get you much higher up on the threat list, with our DPS being as low as it is (relative). Better of just CA + grave wound.

    and it depends on what you're giving up to get to the cap. if it's a ton of will you're probably giving up some heals...but it's up to you, whatever works for your group.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    more crits on DB or PA = more RC = more threat

    Math I use and seems to work out
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Just bring a mini.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Peirce View Post
    more crits on DB or PA = more RC = more threat

    Math I use and seems to work out
    more crits meaning 3-4% more at the very most. nothing special.

    between RKs and minnies and captains, you will have more threat. unless you're using withdraw every time it's up. or the minnies/RKs don't know what their skills do.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    It looks like 50 will using IDOME gives 500 more to outgoing healing whereas the crafted healing relic gives 360 towards the rating, so its roughly like having 36 will. What we need is another virtue slot, then we can have the best of both worlds.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    frankly i don't think it's possible to go beyond 13%
    correct me if i'm wrong but i'm using crit increases wherever possible
    agility is at 600 and i'm still barely beyond 12% crit rate


    bugs me a little since there are enough classes that can reach their crit cap fairly easily when they receive a captain buff..
    i thought our buffs were supposed to be our class advantage when soloing and not the compensation for lower crit rates as compared to other classes Oo
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    With out without the crit buff? You can with the crit buff, Idk if it's possible without it.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    yeah with the crit buff Oo
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    I don't bother, because I trait the +1200 or whatever to pressing attack. Yes, it's a trait I'm losing, but now I don't have to bother with agility and can focus more on my will.

    I'm at 15% with that trait and all the other melee crit stuff I have.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    I assume you are doing this to open up things for RC or WC.
    If so i would say your best bet would be to either trait the +1200 crit rating to DB and PA then try to get crit from Agility and +crit items.

    Personally with Relentless assault i am at 12 or so % crit rating.
    With +pressing attack targets that 12% is more then enough to open those skills up on more then one mob.
    Against a single target you are sort of stuck but i have not found this to be a major issue so far.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    The +1300 rating trait provides too much overlap and I lose the -5 second cooldown on battleshout or defiance. No way im giving up HoH. Besides with my increased PA and DB legacies on my wep I do reach 15%, but those legacy increases dont show up on the stat bar.

    Since after 15% all extra goes towards dev chance, I would consider traiting the increased crit rating trait, but it doesnt show up on stat panel so im not convinced it actually improves dev. chance. If the legacy and the trait actually showed up we would be able to push 6000 crit rating, which may give us the 15% crit chance and somewhere near 10% dev chance, both of which open reactionaries.

    Also if your agility is super low, you will miss more and your crit rating wont mean squat when you miss entirely. My rating is 13.6% with 550 agility (idome, 1st age buff, earrings, relics). That is something like 4120 rating then another 390ish from the weapon legacy for dev blow, so that +1300 crit rating trait would only count towards devestate, which im skeptical about whether if it modifies dev chance at all.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcircus View Post
    ...
    i thought our buffs were supposed to be our class advantage when soloing and not the compensation for lower crit rates as compared to other classes Oo
    Unfortunately, buffing classes are not generally balanced that way. Buffing class with self buffs will be balanced vs. other classes without buffs. Every MMO I've ever played has worked like this.
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Quote Originally Posted by SGWB View Post
    Unfortunately, buffing classes are not generally balanced that way. Buffing class with self buffs will be balanced vs. other classes without buffs. Every MMO I've ever played has worked like this.
    that is exactly what i meant
    but it doesn't seem to me like it's working that way currently
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    Re: Maxing Crit rating with HoH

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcircus View Post
    yeah with the crit buff Oo
    maybe you're missing something...symbol of battle perhaps? that gives you a bunch of crit if you have it on both. otherwise the usual stuff...relics, earrings, agi, etc.
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