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  1. #1
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    Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Now that my kins gotten over that Durchest hiccup it's back into the rest of BG. Sorcerers haven't ever been too much of a problem as we manage the puddles quite well and kill them pretty fast, but there's a few things they do we're still not 100% on and wonder if anyone has any info to share.

    Apart from the antistun corruption we know (or think we do):
    Blue Eye - Puddle. Animation is crouching and rubbing the ground ala swordhalls sorc. Run away run away.

    "Burn (name)" - Firebomb, an aoe distributed attack.

    Then there's:
    Purple Eye - I got one but was to slow on the tooltip, fear pot didn't seem to work and I died on expiration, no puddle though.

    Then there's also a mechanic we're clueless on where when he dies people close to him will insta die with nothing big on their combat log. Tonight 5 people insta died after killing one Sorc, but nothing similar happened with any of the others.

    Anyone figured those last two out?
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Purple eye will nuke whoever has it and anyone around them, I think it does over 2k damage.
    But why don't you stun lock her instead? Stun, CJ, mez, stun again, etc etc.. by the time she tries to do anything, she'll think "Oh ****", dead.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    The purple eye is an AoE pulsing dmg attack centered on the person with the eye. It's announced in the combat chat as "You will betray your friends person X!" or something like that. It hits the person with the eye and everyone within ~15m of them, 4 times for ~2k dmg each time.

    As for the second one, I've never seen a Sorceror do any kind of instant death attack in all my times in there. The only thing I can think of is that maybe someone got a purple eye just before the Sorceror died and the pulses killed the people around who were already low.

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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    The Blue eye doesn't have text associated with it right? And can the purple eye be LOSed? The blue eye can not be LOSed.

    Basically stay close together when fighting these but not so close that you might not see the blue eye over you. For "burn xxx" DNFF if there are RKs or just group up and take the hit. For Blue and Purple eyes just run away from the group and on to other mobs, agroing them and wiping the group
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Quote Originally Posted by Insan0 View Post
    But why don't you stun lock her instead? Stun, CJ, mez, stun again, etc etc.. by the time she tries to do anything, she'll think "Oh ****", dead.
    pretty much the answer there....
    If you do it right, you will not get a single eye

    A good LM will time his skills right to avoid any casting and will know when to remove the corruption to stun/mezz him again.

    If you have an extra burg/LM I just feel sorry for the sorc.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Quote Originally Posted by brasswire12 View Post
    The purple eye is an AoE pulsing dmg attack centered on the person with the eye. It's announced in the combat chat as "You will betray your friends person X!" or something like that. It hits the person with the eye and everyone within ~15m of them, 4 times for ~2k dmg each time.

    As for the second one, I've never seen a Sorceror do any kind of instant death attack in all my times in there. The only thing I can think of is that maybe someone got a purple eye just before the Sorceror died and the pulses killed the people around who were already low.
    Youch that's painful. Yeah someone having a purple eye go off in the main group sounds the most likely. It would defintly explain the large bodycount.

    Yeah we do mez the sorcs first, then run it to smash and bash, need even more stuns looks like.

    Thanks for all the replies guys.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Quote Originally Posted by Yunaleska View Post
    The Blue eye doesn't have text associated with it right? And can the purple eye be LOSed? The blue eye can not be LOSed.

    Basically stay close together when fighting these but not so close that you might not see the blue eye over you. For "burn xxx" DNFF if there are RKs or just group up and take the hit. For Blue and Purple eyes just run away from the group and on to other mobs, agroing them and wiping the group
    This is what we do. The wiping part, anyway.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bear_ View Post
    Then there's also a mechanic we're clueless on where when he dies people close to him will insta die with nothing big on their combat log. Tonight 5 people insta died after killing one Sorc, but nothing similar happened with any of the others.

    Anyone figured those last two out?
    You sure a Flame Axe didn't die at the same time and do his AoE fire attack?
    I don't think I've ever seen a Sorcerer explode on defeat.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Mezz --> CJ --> Sorceror has stun immunity (he'll always throw one eye here. Always) --> Stun --> Sorceror dead.

    They don't explode on defeat. A mismanaged purple eye would explain mass death.

    A resourceful burg (even LM) should be able to keep one locked down with stuns till close to death, but cooldowns will prevent that from being reliably called-upon. I've yet to see them not get at least one eye off, but if you kill it before a blue eye drops, you usually won't get the puddle (not that it matters once you leave it behind). Purple eye - not much you can do once it hits except chase after someone in your group who "has it coming to them."
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Start out with the sorc mezzed.

    When the mez gets broken, have a burg stun (or an LM stun with Test of Will). After the stun, have the LM-re-mez to interrupt. Then have an RK mez to interrupt. Then stun again. then LM mez to interrupt. After this, he should be dead. =)

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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    I think people are missing the point, its not killing him thats the issue. We stun, mezz, dazz him to death no probs. But on 2 occassions I have witnessed 5-6 people die after the sorcerer dies. There were no eyes and no combat attacks, no pubbles nothing. Its just plain strange. Maybe it is a bug, as it has only happened rarely.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike8472 View Post
    I think people are missing the point, its not killing him thats the issue. We stun, mezz, dazz him to death no probs. But on 2 occassions I have witnessed 5-6 people die after the sorcerer dies. There were no eyes and no combat attacks, no pubbles nothing. Its just plain strange. Maybe it is a bug, as it has only happened rarely.
    Maybe lay off the napalm?

    Hehe...seriously, I've never seen anything like this that couldn't be explained with a purple eye. Even the AoE fire he does isn't going to nuke a bunch of people. If it can't be explained, it's a bug, but have you checked your combat logs after this happens? If not, you should. That usually reveals all....and my bet is still purple eye, no offense.
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    Re: Fun with BG Sorcerers

    i have terrible lag in the sorcerer area, particularly around the sorcs and armors up the first flight of stairs.
    so if i was hit with an eye i probably wouldnt have time to run away.

    ive also seen in twins fight where puddles form beneath someone and none of us see the eye.

    whether thats bug or due to lag im not sure.
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