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  1. #26
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    I can max all of my -power stuff...but with the diminished return from BoTR, I still find in long fights that power can be an issue, even in S:E. I do everything I can, and still have to call on SotE from time to time to charge up. My bow reduces power usage, that is second for me behind DPS, and I still cannot stay full power, even with +Fate things charged. If someone is buffing, and LM shoots me some power from time to time (or CJs) I am ok...but stand alone, power is an issue...always.

    This is why I advised originally that -power legacies are more impt to me than +crit to start with. I run in pretty much 2 stances, myself. Strengh when solo - I am getting the aggro anyway, and Endurance when grouped. I dont find that much use for endurance most of the time, even though I can use it to build focus....power is my concern.
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  2. #27

    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    Quote Originally Posted by Afuna View Post
    There was some debate on my server's GLFF a week or so ago about what to max out first on a bow. Consensus was to max out the DPS on the bow b/c it effects all shots and all damage we do. Do you all agree?
    I am encountering the same problem that has been mentioned before in discussions of traits to look for in weapons in that I do not have enough points on a level 65 3A to max everything. I have been maxing my dps first, then dumping points into Induction crit and Barbed Arrow. TBH, this leaves me with little points for anything else. This is particularly true since maxing DPS eats a lot of points.
    Thoughts?
    Do the math yourself. Figure out how much DPS you're actually gaining from each legacy. It'll make you a better player in the end if you understand the class as opposed to blindly taking the majority's advice.
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  3. #28
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    Quote Originally Posted by EV4D View Post
    If you run out of Power in S:P then you definately have power problems. I would say that most hunters can run themselves out of power pretty easily is S:S unless they have "tuned" their hunter to regularly run in that stance.

    Obviously in S:E you should never run out of power, ever.
    It's completely possible to run yourself dry in S:P. I've got a 3k power pool and about 1000 ICPR, and chain-pulling wargs for the Ashenslades daily will empty out that blue bar in a couple minutes.

    Even in Endurance, grouped & buffed, an aggressive focus-burn rotation (otherwise referred to as "spamming skills like they're going out of style") isn't anything I'd call power-neutral. It used to be, before combat was sped up, auto-attacks stopped delaying induction skills, BotR was nerfed (again!), etc.

    Anybody who says, "I don't have power problems" probably isn't using enough skills.
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

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  5. #30
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    Quote Originally Posted by EV4D View Post
    If you run out of Power in S:P then you definately have power problems. I would say that most hunters can run themselves out of power pretty easily is S:S unless they have "tuned" their hunter to regularly run in that stance.

    Obviously in S:E you should never run out of power, ever.
    Um, I have 1k icpr, 2.5k power pool, both -power cost legacies maxed, and I can still run out of power in Endurance, let alone Precision or Strength. Now, I know I'm not the best Hunter in the game, nor do I have the best gear, but it is entirely possible, especially if you are using your skills to maximum effect.
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudie-wan View Post
    Um, I have 1k icpr, 2.5k power pool, both -power cost legacies maxed, and I can still run out of power in Endurance, let alone Precision or Strength. Now, I know I'm not the best Hunter in the game, nor do I have the best gear, but it is entirely possible, especially if you are using your skills to maximum effect.
    Ditto that. A fully raid-buffed hunter going full-bore in S:E with every single Power use mitigation tool available maxed out would need somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5k PIC (edit to add: unbuffed) to break even. Hunters can either gimp their rotation or run out of Power. Finding the balance point between the two in any given situation is the trick.
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    i still have to laugh at people who insist that you can run power neutral in S:E or S:P

    spam your skills, play your class to its max and you'll drop power pretty quickly.
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  8. #33
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    Re: Maxing Bow DPS as first priority

    This whole argument is starting to get old for me. Run 3 Huntsman, burn your skills and power like you're supposed to in anything other than Strength and then pop SotE every about 6 minutes (for a well geared and traited Hunter in Precision, more like 10 in traited Endurance) for all of 10 seconds and repeat. Most fights don't last longer than this, and for boss fights, you can very easily time a 10 second break without causing group wide chaos.

    Is this how I'd like to see it work? No, but it's good enough for now. Work with what we've got.
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