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    Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Welcome to the Warden Forum.
    Here in the Warden forum we enjoy civil chatting and frown upon trolls. If you come here with a legitimate question or seek info a great deal of it is housed below in compilation of links.

    A heads up to the forum noob, if your thread contains one of the following it has been Wardenized: derailed by page 2, contains cookys, mass quote, or other random forms of derailment. We call these Wadenisms, deal with it. (Missing R is intentional)

    Below are some examples of epic fail/derailment threads. You were forewarned.
    Completely Random Crazyness
    Cooky Reference
    "Turbine ripped out our Warden Hearts"; reference.

    Send me a PM if you have any threads you would like added to the list.
    Below I will try to edit this post with any big threads or links to any major posts of interest.

    Helpful Wikis
    Mastery Guide
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Warden
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Warden_Skills
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Warden_Traits
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Warden_Deeds

    Fun Warden Community Threads - Check these out for some good convo/laughs/ideas
    An Epic account of Warden
    Bogbereth FTW!!
    Woo! Warden ScreenShots
    Warden Tshirts! Come get em...
    A massive Pull Video, lil old, but still juicy *NEW* by request

    Current Bug/changes list - 4.7.12
    Consolidated Bug List *NEW*
    Recklessness Bug? *NEW*
    Cry out for possible changes *NEW*
    Broken Conviction *NEW*
    EoB is broken?...again? *NEW*

    Gambit Lists and Comparisons
    Amazing Break Down of GAMBITS *NEW*
    Updated Gambit Graph *NEW*
    Updated Gambit Overview *NEW*

    Tanking, Gasp I know
    THE MARCHWARDEN TANKING GUIDE!! READ IT!
    Threat Management and ToTs

    New Player Questions
    Masteries, what are they and how to get them?
    How to get Legendary Pages?
    Don't want to tank?...
    Another General Guide for New Players
    Tips for Leveling the Great Waden

    Tests

    Stats and Traits
    Updated Virtue Thread in Theory
    Skill and Power Trait
    Helpful Skirmish Traits *NEW*

    Weapons and Legendarys
    Legacy Guide for Starters
    New ROI Relics

    ROI
    Orion Blog on Potency, WHAT IS IT!!








    Last edited by LtDiablo; Apr 07 2012 at 01:26 PM. Reason: Updated
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    /bump. Agree this is a great reference for anyone old and new alike that wants some info. Thanks LtDiablo for pulling all this together for our community.

    Keep this at the top til we get a sticky please.
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Thank you I'll try to keep it updated with any new unanswered threads since theres a lot I still havent shifted through farther back in the pages.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Very nice! I'll do my prt for bumpage!
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    It was your idea to separate the two threads
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Quote Originally Posted by LtDiablo View Post
    It was your idea to separate the two threads
    Yeah but I was too lazy to do it. Kudos for not being as lazy as me.

    *COUGHbumpCOUGH*
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Awesome! Great job on the list so far.
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    a few more items could be added from my post Warden gambit printables, warden class printables
    http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=241829

    two charts showing warden gambits

    the first has the gambits by level

    the second has the gambits needed for class deeds showing the amount needed total, and the daily limit if known then cross out the deeds as done...

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com/guild/lib...ardentable.pdf

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com/guild/lib...rden-deeds.pdf


    the next two charts show the buyable level 45 class quest items for all classes, and the next has items each class has to loot themselves including wardens and r-k's

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com/guild/lib...lass-quest.pdf

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com/guild/lib...ntradeable.pdf

    Gambits by effect and level:

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com/guild/lib...-by-effect.pdf

    http://jaq.guildlaunch.com has more lotro references and printables


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    These next items are not my work but about wardens

    Council of Eriador'sThe Gambit Grid:
    http://www.council-of-eriador.com/WardenGambits.html

    !shmaiel's The Gambit Spreadsheet:
    http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/lotro/

    (love the tree of gambits concept, but want to play Go on it

    Faildir's Gambits by effect:
    http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Warde...rted_By_Effect

    Dalthyn's Gambit Chart
    http://www.bistromath.org/lotro/warden/gambits.pdf

    Fallenacorn's Gambits by icon:
    http://thefallenacorn.com/lotro/gambits.pdf
    spreadsheet: http://www.editgrid.com/user/fallenacorn/Warden_Gambits

    Strikefear's Level 28 gambit comparison sheet:
    http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...0qaKIq5CS9e0Ag

    AmonaugTruehammer's level 55 Gambit comparison sheet
    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...3KblxNzfttl-Mg
    lvl 56 gambit compare http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...3KYUry2bIkSaRQ
    lvl 57 gambit compare http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...3KYbVNuZjRd0Mw
    lvl 60 Gambit Compare: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...3KZcIJqeA4uhKA


    Banaticus threat chart: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66...345/threat.png
    Discussion thread: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=239365

    Burgzerg list of gambits
    http://www.burgzerg.com/page/2009/01/11/gambits

    Lotro Wiki Warden
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Warden

    From codemasters forum:
    Saurfenion's quick sheet http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2284/wardenv1ob1.png

    Eriathor's Gambit Guide:
    http://www.pixelbook.co.uk/upload/NbzaB7965.jpg

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    edit-> I fixed the links
    Last edited by hardsell; Mar 31 2009 at 07:40 PM.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I agree, I'd really like to see this stickied.
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Ghetto Sticky
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Lol Ghetto Sticky? I wont question Tree I wont.... ok maybe I will ###?
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Quote Originally Posted by LtDiablo View Post
    Lol Ghetto Sticky? I wont question Tree I wont.... ok maybe I will ###?

    Well...Since this thread isn't stickied, we have to keep bumping it to the top. If we keep it in the first few threads, its kinda like a sticky, but not really.


    so....Ghetto Sticky
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    [URL="http://forums.lotro.com/showpost.php?p=3514650&postcount=20"]Guadian[/URL][COLOR=Yellow][COLOR=Blue][COLOR=SeaGreen][COLOR=DarkGreen][COLOR=Purple][COLOR=Red][COLOR=Green][COLOR=Navy][COLOR=Yellow][COLOR=Red][COLOR=Green][COLOR=Purple][COLOR=Red][COLOR=Yellow][COLOR=DarkOrange]
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    bump, bump
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Updated the List... BIG TIME! Everything labeled *NEW* has been added as of today 2.20.09
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I appreciate the intent of this thread, but I didn't find it to be particularly useful. It seems that 75% of the links go to threads that the 3rd or 4th post is "Learn to search. . . this other thread has the info you're looking for" with a corresponding link.
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Not entirely sure what your talking about, but please next time actually look at the threads instead of assuming. I just wasted the time going through every single thread on the list and found ONE that even came close to what you said and even in that thread they still answered the question of the OP as well as posting a link to the other thread.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Quote Originally Posted by LtDiablo View Post
    Not entirely sure what your talking about, but please next time actually look at the threads instead of assuming. I just wasted the time going through every single thread on the list and found ONE that even came close to what you said and even in that thread they still answered the question of the OP as well as posting a link to the other thread.
    That's odd unless you have pared them down since the last time i tried to use it because I went 3/3 before I gave up. I'll take a look. Sorry for the assumption/exaggeration. Was not my intent to waste your time or anyone else's.

    *edit* I'm about halfway through the list and I've found several that suggest there is a better/older/more accurate source of information. One of my original 3 I discovered I misread -- the reply was to someone other than the OP.

    Maybe part of the issue is a difference of opinion as to what is the better source of information.
    Still these three don't seem to be particularly vague so I'm not sure how you only found one:
    Quote Originally Posted by Boogey383 View Post
    There's a surplus of information on the boards regarding this topic if you're interested. Just do a search.
    Quote Originally Posted by dbrowdy View Post
    Check out the warden page on lotro-wiki for answer to these basic questions. Link is in the "sticky" thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by dbrowdy View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me that someone could be perceptive enough to find a bug, and non-lazy enough to write up a post about it...but doesn't bother searching for 2 seconds to see if it's a known bug. Try using the search function and type in "damage type bug" and see if anything comes up. Since I just did it, I'll give you a hint...there are only two threads that come up and one of them has the information you're looking for.
    Last edited by Valinus; Feb 25 2009 at 04:18 PM.
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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I did read all three of those, but you must bypass the first post or two here in the Warden forums. All questions are answered in the threads on the first page. Might not be the first post or two because we are "Search Nazis", but they are answered. As for suggesting there is a better source of info, that may be true, but when I added the links I went back five pages before the "pruning". Some of the "better sources" likely no longer exist.

    Also I apologize if I came off as rude, it has not been a good day; stupid fever :/
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Great job!!! I've been reading this thread for quite awhile. Can't tell you how helpful this has been. It's made the game more fun and playable. So I thought it was time to add my thanks, and acknowledge the effort.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Added the cooky section above all other links with a new proper intro. Also added Tanis's Uber Virtue Thread in BOLD under the Traits section towards the bottom.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Quote Originally Posted by LtDiablo View Post
    I'm sure some of you may notice something off, there is nothing here. I'm tired of people complaining that we harp on them for asking them to use the sticky and then they reply with a snide remark of "I did, but I didn't find it, the sticky sucks rawr."

    I have not deleted it entirely, just simply moved it. If you want the sticky restored send me a PM. Until then find the info yourself using the Search function since my attempted help is not appreciated.
    Uncool.



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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I'm sorry it's a bad day and I'm really tired of this. The threads are still here just moved to a special location. I'm not that dumb to delete them outright after all I did take my time to put them together would be foolish of me to remove them permanently.

    I'll restore it later when I cool down.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I restored the Wiki to it's former glory, thank you kindly to those folks who sent PMs
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    Small update to the list, added the Post bk7 bug thread, please use it.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Helpful Links & Threads STOP HERE FIRST -Sticky!

    I think that the Legacies for LI's from class to class are unbalanced. For instance RK legacies include Wrath of Flame Damage% increase, Chill of Winter Damage% increase, and Fury of Storm Damage% increase. Not to mention the Crit% for the whole Storm category and other Crit% legacies. They also get a + Healing over Time% (HoT) legacy.

    These are very generalized and wide-ranging legacies that vastly improve an already impressive class' abilities.

    My argument is why doesn't a Warden have legacies of such expansive caliber? Why isn't there a + Fist Gambit DoT % legacy on our spears, or + Spear Gambit Crit rating/multiplier % legacy.

    Our best legacies are: Exultation of Battle Threat Up which was nerfed in bk8. + Wages of Fear positional damage % which is similair to the burglar legacy. And + Mighty Blow damage % which only adds to the main-hand damage not the net-damage after might, traits, and damage type are applied. There are other good legacies obviously but I don't see a need to list them all. And none of them compare to the above-mentioned RK legacies.

    I am not biased against RK, I have a 60 RK as well as a 60 Warden.

    I just wish we would have more useful legacies to compare to other classes such as the RK. Please Turbine take note of this. This is a serious problem for players whose main's are Warden's and I would like to see changes in the next update/expansion.

    Thanks for readin'
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    Originally Posted by Graalx2 -Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

 

 
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