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  1. #76
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    oh no, oh no, oh no...


    sorry this thread has a sadly lacking sense of fear to it.. just felt the need to inject a little

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    As in the purple hele armour? Ugh don't you remember the droves of new freeps that came out to grind their way to rank 4 or 5....no thanks. I mean the easy infamy was nice but that crowd solidified the STAB or grams (often in those days) zerg that plaugues every server.

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullets View Post
    No, I don't want it the old way if it means it goes back to 15 sec. 15 isn't long enough with all the CC out there. 60 is more like it.

    Oh hell yeah. I hardly ever used mine except to storm a keep, I will definately be using it more offensively with it at 60sec. And I never used my freep insignia in PvE anyways so big woop..

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullets View Post
    No, I don't want it the old way if it means it goes back to 15 sec. 15 isn't long enough with all the CC out there. 60 is more like it.

    agreed pop inignia, gutpunch LM off horse and laugh manically. w/o stuns they will never get burning embers off.

    FEAR LM'ers FEAR! lol (there you go faithe)

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    seriously? In that case I would like to know what you were doing with yours in PvE

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frelorn View Post
    Freeps

    • Lainedhal’s Insignias can no longer be used in areas outside of the Ettenmoors. These items now require that the player is inside a PvMP area.
    • The Chest of Glain Vraig, Chest of the Second Marshall, and Chest of the First Marshall have had their loot tables updated.
    • Boss monsters in the Delving of Fror will now drop level appropriate loot.
    • The slow portion of Dust in the Eyes will now be properly removed on defeat.
    - Fix stun/root pots?

    - Fix flag exploit in the keeps so you have to kill the CG/Tyrant for turn the flag?

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanen117 View Post

    - Fix flag exploit in the keeps so you have to kill the CG/Tyrant for turn the flag?
    Speaking for Orion - he has a fix in the works for the flags.

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullets View Post
    Well, if you don't get rewards, why not go to the moors just because it's fun? If you're not having fun, then don't go. Simple. Having fun in epic battles against other human players is what it's about. It's something to do when you've hit 60 and got all your gear. Go for fun because it's something to do when you've already done it all.

    Besides, if PvMP rewarded freeps then the hard-core PvE freeps who don't PvP would complain that it's not fair that you have PvP to get something as special as an insignia. So you can blame them for whining so much about how they don't want to be forced to PvP, even though no one is breaking their arm to even if PvPers get special perks.

    And you get the black horse cuz it's the coolest looking horse in the game--as opposed to a goat. I still can't believe people would spend time earning the rep and the gold to buy a goat. So ugly.... I'd rather get knocked off my black horse faster than ride any other horse. It's all about the looks, you know.

    Anyway, I do agree it would be nice to get better gear than the Barney purple gear, but again, PvEers complain that they don't get it too. Personally, I think all that could be solved by offering gear that is the same as, say, radiance gear, but one piece at a time per rank as is currently the system. As in, replace the Barney gear with radiance gear pieces. The end. Honestly, I think for most freeps its a longer grind to get all of the PvMP armour pieces rank by rank than it is to grind instances. PvEers shouldn't complain because they have an easier way to get it without ranking. Hard-core PvPers should be allowed to get nice gear too without having to grind instances. Casual in-betweenie players that like both PvP and PvE can do a combination of instances and PvPing to get the full set if they want. Problem solved.

    Yeah, i see waht you're saying. On arkenstone there aren't anymore good fights. So its not much fun anymore. Just usually 20 creeps and 5 freeps. Or rarely 20 freeps against 5 creeps. I go out there because i enjoy it, but more because of old times sake than anything.
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Coming from a full time main creep:


    Please be careful not to buff up creeps too much now... I want it be competitive and fun, dont want no nonsense where creeps need to get nerfed after this...

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barliman View Post
    - No mention of lowering the ranks for the creeps. I thought this would be a good thing for the creep side. I hope they still will consider it.
    blech...rank already means so little....I dunno if I have everyone adn their brother running around as a rank 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jalessa View Post
    Speaking for Orion - he has a fix in the works for the flags.
    awesome 5 bucks says this is the most quoted post for a the next few days. lol

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwoo View Post
    Here yall go!

    You're sending yourself a box of kleenix? Whatever rocks your boat I guess...
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post

    awesome 5 bucks says this is the most quoted post for a the next few days. lol

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladrimir View Post
    noted Thorken. I'll pass it along to Bicep how you feel.

    Go ahead and tell Bicep, he knows how I feel. Doesnt mean I dont respect him. Most Immortals are way cool, and I have no problem bein with them, thats why I am in immortals. There is a exception of a few, but go be a lil tattle tale. As a matter of fact lets go meet in the moors right now.............
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Niblik View Post
    You're sending yourself a box of kleenix? Whatever rocks your boat I guess...
    Actually that was for you..... Im not the one crying to change a game
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    i dont think creeps need more corruptions for crit hits. we need more base passives against it.

    its sounds like there will be more corruption traits to use which makes no sense at all since we only get 5 slots. even adding slots wont matter since there are far to many traits that need to be used to be effective.
    at the moment you can trait 4 ways. damage, health, power, resistance. throw power out there since its useless when your dead. but then add in crit resistance and its still 4 types of corruption builds and not enough space.

    and how about power/hp/damage corruptions not having the negative effect?

    edit that. you can trait more ways after 14. damage, power, morale, resistance, migitation, and crit resistance. and only so many slots to use.

    so not scrap many of these and use them as passive traits?
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    a longer cd should be placed on hinder shot from BA's but their VT damage should be increased 2x and a targeting reticle placed upon their target.
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    When you do this patch can you please make it so people can't flip the flag by logging into the room to do so? It makes for not fun pvp. Hopefully the creeps will want to stay after this update and pvmp will return to somewhat normal. Thanks for the info.

    I think most freeps and creeps alike think that the flag flipping is an exploit. I dont know what everyone else thinks.
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Sounds like bull**** to me...

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwoo View Post
    Actually that was for you..... Im not the one crying to change a game
    Right your crying for easy mode!
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwoo View Post
    Go ahead and tell Bicep, he knows how I feel. Doesnt mean I dont respect him. Most Immortals are way cool, and I have no problem bein with them, thats why I am in immortals. There is a exception of a few, but go be a lil tattle tale. As a matter of fact lets go meet in the moors right now.............
    Whats your problem.. why are you being such a pessimist and being so anti-creep right now. I've always enjoyed playing with you and against you, and right now you're not acting or portraying who I thought you were. I don't see how you think the current condition is fair and I don't understand why you find that what you've said here shows that you care one bit for creep play, so why would we want someone like you? I am an Officer of the Immortals; by me talking to Bicep has nothing to do with tattling... and if you are calling it that, then you know already you're saying things that you obviously know aint right; and the attitude and character you're displaying here is somewhat of a let down to me. You got me shakin my head at what you've been claiming. That creeps need to outnumber Freeps, that we shouldnt be as powerfull, etc.... Read up to what someone else posted about the fact that when we do infact outnumber freeps, they either log, turn and run or turtle... Loads of fun. It doesnt work that way. If you consider your run of the mill Freep to be what the quests make you out to be, a HERO in the lands of Middle Earth, then shouldn't creep characters be the mirror of that in the eyes of the soldiers of Mordor? Are we not the Decorated warriors of Mordor, and with that shouldn't we be as strong if not stronger(with high ranks) to a non-ranked freep. But if this is how you're going to continue on, whatever... lost a lot of respect I had for you is all, but i guess that doesnt matter.

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    TIA for the morale fix and DPS buff for creeps.
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by hotinaz View Post
    Right your crying for easy mode!
    If that makes you feel better, then yeah, Im the one crying..... ROFL
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Another change/fix i have not really heard anyone talk about deals with the outposts.


    Out of the 5 outposts, only coldfells outpost drops delving stones (when controlled by the delving).


    Shouldnt they all have loot? delving stones dropping from all 5 outposts when controlled by the delving?




    also i dont think the river outpost updates the quest log still, the rest do just fine.

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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladrimir View Post
    Whats your problem.. why are you being such a pessimist and being so anti-creep right now. I've always enjoyed playing with you and against you, and right now you're not acting or portraying who I thought you were. I don't see how you think the current condition is fair and I don't understand why you find that what you've said here shows that you care one bit for creep play, so why would we want someone like you? I am an Officer of the Immortals; by me talking to Bicep has nothing to do with tattling... and if you are calling it that, then you know already you're saying things that you obviously know aint right; and the attitude and character you're displaying here is somewhat of a let down to me. You got me shakin my head at what you've been claiming. That creeps need to outnumber Freeps, that we shouldnt be as powerfull, etc.... Read up to what someone else posted about the fact that when we do infact outnumber freeps, they either log, turn and run or turtle... Loads of fun. It doesnt work that way. If you consider your run of the mill Freep to be what the quests make you out to be, a HERO in the lands of Middle Earth, then shouldn't creep characters be the mirror of that in the eyes of the soldiers of Mordor? Are we not the Decorated warriors of Mordor, and with that shouldn't we be as strong if not stronger(with high ranks) to a non-ranked freep. But if this is how you're going to continue on, whatever... lost a lot of respect I had for you is all, but i guess that doesnt matter.
    Well for one, my attitude towards this game is PvE over PvP. So by u sayiing "I don't understand why you find that what you've said here shows that you care one bit for creep play," is pretty much true, and all the immortals knew that I was PvE over PvP. My main concearn Vladamir, is that I dont want the wants of creeps to ruin the pve experiance. and let me remind you that the majority of players in the game are here for the lore, and if we are going by lore then yeah it will take three creeps to take out a single freep man. If you dont like what I have said, then im sorry. What creep am i talkin to btw, since i dont know who you are.....Now I do, why dony u activate your signature Trajedy. Isnt your freep a champ that used to be in Insurrection or still is. If this is you I am really surprised by this from what you use to say..
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    Re: Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwoo View Post
    Well for one, my attitude towards this game is PvE over PvP. So by u sayiing "I don't understand why you find that what you've said here shows that you care one bit for creep play," is pretty much true, and all the immortals knew that I was PvE over PvP. My main concearn Vladamir, is that I dont want the wants of creeps to ruin the pve experiance. and let me remind you that the majority of players in the game are here for the lore, and if we are going by lore then yeah it will take three creeps to take out a single freep man. If you dont like what I have said, then im sorry. What creep am i talkin to btw, since i dont know who you are.....Now I do, why dony u activate your signature Trajedy. Isnt your freep a champ that used to be in Insurrection or still is. If this is you I am really surprised by this from what you use to say..
    not a single change listed effects pve for you at all...

    taking insignias out of pve just makes pvp effect pve even less, not more.

 

 
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