We have detected that cookies are not enabled on your browser. Please enable cookies to ensure the proper experience.
Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 LastLast
Results 76 to 100 of 169
  1. #76
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by SoundsofSilence View Post
    Hey! This program looks great - I have a Yamaha Arius (a MIDI Keyboard). Once I buy the wires (hopefully tomorrow), will I infact be able to hook my Arius up to my computer, and play LIVE over the game? i.e., I sit there watching my minstrel playing a lute, and when I play notes on my Yamaha, he plays the same notes on the lute? Is that possible with this program?
    Yes it is. Connect your piano, then start lotro midi player, click File > Connect MIDI Piano, select your piano, and click the Play button to start sending notes from your piano to the game.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  2. #77
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    161

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    First, please forgive me for being a dumbass..

    Secondly, please forgive me for not doing a complete and thorough search through this thread or any of other others on the topic, but... (there's friggin' thousands out there, you know!)... in my defence, I did do a search for 'keymap' on this forum topic..

    Anyway, thirdly, I have used the Lotro MiditoABC converter, and it's great! No great issues (certainly, none that weren't there from the midi, at any rate... <sigh>)

    But... (here comes the dumbass). As has been mentioned previously, the default settings for keymaps are pretty scant... about a third of all possibles. Now, I'm not musical, so I just see a bunch of letters and symbols - and just nod and smile.

    I'm presuming when an ABC file is created, it uses all of the possible keys - and thus, when they aren't mapped fully, I'm missing out on a stack of sound (which would explain some of the song results I've had).

    So.... is there a text file or something that I can copy and paste into an ini, or some such similar?? Or at least something that makes more sense to me than C#2^ sort of thing..???

    Thanks

  3. #78
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    If you're exporting to ABC files and using /play song.abc to play them in-game, then you don't need to worry about key mapping.

    If you're playing the song directly from LotRO MIDI Player (using the green play button), then you'll need to make sure every note has a key mapped to it in the game (Options > Key Mapping > Music). It doesn't matter so much what the key is, just that every note has a key assigned to it. If you change your key settings while LotRO MIDI Player is running, you'll need to reload the Key Mappings (from the Edit menu). But again, this is ONLY if you're playing the MIDI file directly, rather than exporting it to ABC and playing the ABC.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  4. #79
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    133

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    So, is this the general method for taking a given MIDI and using this tool to "split it into parts" ?:

    1) Load up your MIDI into Lotro Midi Player.
    2) Choose which instrument you want to build for.
    3) Deselect all but a few tracks, leaving just ones you want to use for this instrument / "part" only.
    4) Optimize (adjust transposition / maximize playable notes).
    5) Export to ABC.
    6) Repeat steps 1-5 for your next instrument.

    If so, then:

    a) How many tracks should one choose "per instrument"? I assume the more you choose, the more likely you are to somehow "overload" your instrument in LOTRO (get "too many requests" messages)??

    b) I'm assuming it would be okay for one to use the same track for multiple instruments, but it probably maximizes your harmony to NOT do so?

    c) Also, are there certain "best practices" for matching up tracks with specific Lotro instruments? For instance, I would think any track with a lot of high notes should go to "flute"? It would seem that I probably can't trust whatever instrument name actually shows up in the Lotro Midi Player, right? (If it says "Flute" there, it may not sound good as a lotro flute.)


    Love the tool!

    Thanks!
    Last edited by DangerDave; Jul 02 2009 at 08:28 AM.
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a00000010d92f/01001/signature.png]Gronar[/charsig]
    So there I was, on top of a mountain, in Ost Forod....what had to be some 600 miles away from where I had been a moment ago.... seeing "double" of everything...and not wearing any pants!

  5. #80
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Yup, that's the general set of steps to take. You're going to want to do step 4 only once per song (perhaps before step 3), you don't want different parts to be transposed differently (except maybe up or down by an octave/12 semitones).

    a) You're not going to get a "too many requests" error, but LotRO limits ABC files to playing 6 notes at a time, so some notes may not play. The number of tracks per part really depends on the MIDI file, and how many parts you want to split it into.

    b) That's right. If everyone's playing the same part, it limits the harmony.

    c) Flutes already play one octave higher than other instruments, and theorbos one octave lower (if a lute and flute were playing the same abc file, the flute would be one octave above the lute). LotRO MIDI Player does not take that into account when exporting files.

    Piano or guitar parts generally sound best on the lute. Wind intrument parts and vocals generally sound best on the flute, clarinet, or horn. Bass parts generally sound best on the Theorbo. But of course, it's up to you to decide what sounds best.

    The only difference when you choose a different instrument in LotRO MIDI player is whether or not it uses the bottom 1-2 notes in the ABC file. (Wind instruments have breath sounds for the bottom 1-2 notes.) I included every instrument in the list so people wouldn't get confused and think that a particular instrument wasn't supported.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  6. #81
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    133

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Digero View Post
    Yup, that's the general set of steps to take. You're going to want to do step 4 only once per song (perhaps before step 3), you don't want different parts to be transposed differently (except maybe up or down by an octave/12 semitones).

    a) You're not going to get a "too many requests" error, but LotRO limits ABC files to playing 6 notes at a time, so some notes may not play. The number of tracks per part really depends on the MIDI file, and how many parts you want to split it into.

    b) That's right. If everyone's playing the same part, it limits the harmony.

    c) Flutes already play one octave higher than other instruments, and theorbos one octave lower (if a lute and flute were playing the same abc file, the flute would be one octave above the lute). LotRO MIDI Player does not take that into account when exporting files.

    Piano or guitar parts generally sound best on the lute. Wind intrument parts and vocals generally sound best on the flute, clarinet, or horn. Bass parts generally sound best on the Theorbo. But of course, it's up to you to decide what sounds best.

    The only difference when you choose a different instrument in LotRO MIDI player is whether or not it uses the bottom 1-2 notes in the ABC file. (Wind instruments have breath sounds for the bottom 1-2 notes.) I included every instrument in the list so people wouldn't get confused and think that a particular instrument wasn't supported.

    Thank you very much for your detailed reply, sir!

    Yes, the idea of "transposing" only once per song suddenly dawned on me yesterday, after I had already split a song into parts. Fortunately, your software kindly labels each file with the tranposition and speed that the file was created at.

    Can't wait to hook-up with my kin and figure out what instruments sound best with what part-file for the songs that I'm "splitting out".

    Thanks very much!
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a00000010d92f/01001/signature.png]Gronar[/charsig]
    So there I was, on top of a mountain, in Ost Forod....what had to be some 600 miles away from where I had been a moment ago.... seeing "double" of everything...and not wearing any pants!

  7. #82
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    133

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    What do you do when one particular "part" within the Lotro Midi Player... when played by itself, gives "Too many requests"... yet, when you listen to it, that part is carrying a lot of the song's melody?
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a00000010d92f/01001/signature.png]Gronar[/charsig]
    So there I was, on top of a mountain, in Ost Forod....what had to be some 600 miles away from where I had been a moment ago.... seeing "double" of everything...and not wearing any pants!

  8. #83
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    What do you do when one particular "part" within the Lotro Midi Player... when played by itself, gives "Too many requests"... yet, when you listen to it, that part is carrying a lot of the song's melody?
    My best suggestion is to find another midi file of the song, which has either a less complicated part for the melody, or is split into tracks so you can make it into different parts.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  9. #84

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    I just started playing around with the music in Lotro and found your program and I was wondering if you are going to add the Cow bell to the list of Instruments.

    Zefy

  10. #85
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Zefy View Post
    I just started playing around with the music in Lotro and found your program and I was wondering if you are going to add the Cow bell to the list of Instruments.

    Zefy
    You can always play an .abc exported from this program with any instrument. Since the cowbell only has one note, it'll probably sound best if you use it with a simple drum part.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  11. #86
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    162

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Thank you very much for this software. It's awesome!

    One question: what causes LotRO-MP to choke on some MIDI's that other programs (such as WMP) can play? For some files I get "Invalid MIDI file" and/or "could not get sequence from file" upon opening them. Is there anything I might try doing to them in a MIDI editor such that LotRO-MP will recognize them?
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a000000173b0a/signature.png]Cruniac[/charsig]
    [i]Alts[/i]: Eszti (8) <BRG> * Liaria (10) <MINS> * Elymas (20) <LRM>
    [i]This enemy you cannot kill. You can only drive it back damaged into the depths,
    and teach your children to watch the waves for its return. [/i] -- Quellcrist Falconer

  12. #87
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Alethos View Post
    Thank you very much for this software. It's awesome!

    One question: what causes LotRO-MP to choke on some MIDI's that other programs (such as WMP) can play? For some files I get "Invalid MIDI file" and/or "could not get sequence from file" upon opening them. Is there anything I might try doing to them in a MIDI editor such that LotRO-MP will recognize them?
    LotRO MIDI Player uses Java's MIDI API to read the files. When you get those errors, that means the file has some features or structure that the Java MIDI API can't handle. Unfortunately I don't have any more details than what's in the error message.

    It's possible that opening and re-saving the file in a MIDI editor will restructure the file in such a way as to not confuse the Java MIDI API. If possible, save the file in MIDI format 1 (as opposed to 0 or 2).
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  13. #88
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    161

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Hi again Digero..

    My system went down with a virus, and I lost stuff (including LOTRO...grrr - don't we love 10G downloads??)

    Anyway, before that happened, I was playing and had a few good times... Layla for example, and Rodrigo's Adagio from Concerto de Aranjuez

    But... one problem I found was in the midi's themselves.

    So, I shall ask a question (without doing a forum search for... ?what terms??), and ask you directly - do you have a preferred or suggested mp3-> midi converter that you use? I tried a couple of the more... well, advertised ones.. and for what I was doing... ****!! (granted, they were free!) (FTR - demo of Intelliscore, 7canaries, Audio Editor Pro, etc)

    I basically used Blind Guardian's Bard's Tale as my test mp3, as it's a simple basic 2 guitar tune (in the beginning), and they all dropped notes and made a dog's breakfast of it!

    Thanks!

  14. #89
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Sainthood View Post
    So, I shall ask a question (without doing a forum search for... ?what terms??), and ask you directly - do you have a preferred or suggested mp3-> midi converter that you use? I tried a couple of the more... well, advertised ones.. and for what I was doing... ****!! (granted, they were free!) (FTR - demo of Intelliscore, 7canaries, Audio Editor Pro, etc)

    I basically used Blind Guardian's Bard's Tale as my test mp3, as it's a simple basic 2 guitar tune (in the beginning), and they all dropped notes and made a dog's breakfast of it!

    Thanks!
    I've never used a program that converts MP3 to MIDI. Programs like that are difficult to make and don't work very well. I'd recommend trying to find a MIDI file on the internet for the song you want.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  15. #90
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Washington, US
    Posts
    457

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Sorry to necro this thread, but does someone have a mirror for the program? It appears the site is down.
    [center][charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0920d0000000de728/01008/signature.png]Reiriel[/charsig]
    [size=1][url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/yinwaru/][color=skyblue][b]Yinwaru - 65 Champ[/b][/color][/url] [b][color=grey]~[/color][/b] [url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/wynriel/][color=skyblue][b]Wynriel - 60 Captain[/b][/color][/url] [b][color=grey]~[/color][/b] [url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/reiriel/][color=skyblue][b]Reiriel - 65 Lore-master[/b][/color][/url] [b][color=grey]~[/color][/b] [url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/aynori/][color=skyblue][b]Aynori - 60 Guardian[/b][/color][/url]
    [url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/iambroken/][color=darkred][b]Iambroken - R6 Blackarrow[/b][/color][/url] [b][color=grey]~[/color][/b] [url=http://my.lotro.com/character/firefoot/grishfaer/][color=darkred][b]Grishfaer - R4 Stalker[/b][/color][/url][/center][/size]

  16. #91
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    The company that hosts my site is having some issues. I've been talking to them.. hopefully it'll be back in the next few days.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  17. #92
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Elendilmir & Landroval
    Posts
    268

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Just a quick note to say that it appears to be up and functioning again. Yay!

    My personal thanks again, Digero, for making this Program available to the LotrO Music Community!
    [COLOR=#00ffff]Keptwise Wandering[/COLOR] of the Fallohides
    [COLOR=#ffd700]Director of The Eriador Music Society[/COLOR] - [COLOR=#ffd700][B]Elendilmir & Landroval[/B][/COLOR]
    [U][URL="http://s1.zetaboards.com/EriadorMusicSociety/index/"][COLOR=#40e0d0]http://s1.zetaboards.com/EriadorMusicSociety/index/[/COLOR][/URL][/U] - [B]The official Home of EMS[/B]

  18. #93

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    :/
    I get this message when I try and use it:
    Error 403 - Forbidden

    You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges.
    [url]http://joel-end.blogspot.com/[/url]
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a000000001d6c/01005/signature.png]Hoppa[/charsig]

  19. #94
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    If it's not back up by tomorrow, I'll try to set up a mirror.

    In the mean time, if you know how to compile a Java program from source code, you can get the code from the subversion repository on GoogleCode. It includes project files for the eclipse IDE.
    ^ If none of that made sense to you, then you'd best wait
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  20. #95
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    109

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    It is still down 2 years later =/ Any information on this going back up?
    [CENTER][COLOR=YellowGreen][URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/kanashi/"]Kanashi[/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/luthialas/"]Luthialas[/URL][/COLOR][COLOR=Orange] *[/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/iorianne/"]Iorianne[/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/jericko/"]Jericko[/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/isahbella/"]Isahbella[/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/horowen/"]Horowen[/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/mordekaiser/"][COLOR=Orange]Mordekaiser[/COLOR][/URL] [COLOR=Orange]*[/COLOR] [URL="http://my.lotro.com/home/character/elendilmir/rapuhnzel/"]Rapuhnzel[/URL][/COLOR]
    [COLOR=RoyalBlue] [COLOR=YellowGreen][URL="http://s9.zetaboards.com/Moriken_Message_Tree/index/"]Moriken[/URL] - Elendilmir Kinship[/COLOR][/COLOR]
    [/CENTER]

  21. #96
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Elendilmir & Landroval
    Posts
    268

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Kept View Post
    Just a quick note to say that it appears to be up and functioning again. Yay!

    My personal thanks again, Digero, for making this Program available to the LotrO Music Community!

    Good news....If you've previously downloaded the Java based program, it's still functional.

    Bad news....if you're trying to download the Java program to install and use, you'll get the Permission Denied error.

    I thought folks were having trouble with the program running and not problems with actually downloading it for the first time. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
    [COLOR=#00ffff]Keptwise Wandering[/COLOR] of the Fallohides
    [COLOR=#ffd700]Director of The Eriador Music Society[/COLOR] - [COLOR=#ffd700][B]Elendilmir & Landroval[/B][/COLOR]
    [U][URL="http://s1.zetaboards.com/EriadorMusicSociety/index/"][COLOR=#40e0d0]http://s1.zetaboards.com/EriadorMusicSociety/index/[/COLOR][/URL][/U] - [B]The official Home of EMS[/B]

  22. #97
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Quote Originally Posted by Kept View Post
    Good news....If you've previously downloaded the Java based program, it's still functional.

    Bad news....if you're trying to download the Java program to install and use, you'll get the Permission Denied error.

    I thought folks were having trouble with the program running and not problems with actually downloading it for the first time. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
    Right- if you've already run the program once, it's installed on your computer (unless you uninstalled it). If you don't have a shortcut to it on your desktop or start menu, you can still run it from the Java control panel:


    Use the green round (>) button to run the program, or the square shortcut icon to create a shortcut to LotRO MIDI Player on the desktop.

    Again, this'll only work if you've run it from the website at least once.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  23. #98
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    283

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Mirror please!
    [center][b][size=3]Alch - Willhealforloot - Fulmetal - Willstealyourloot[/size][/b]


    [I][size=1][color=#3333]...you'll never know what it's like, spending your whole life in a dream...[/color][/size][/I][/center]

  24. #99
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    693

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    The official mirror is http://lotromidiplayer.googlecode.com. Use the Featured download to run/install it.
    Digero Guardian | Digrim Burglar | Defenders of the Mithril Halls Officer
    Maestro - Convert MIDI files to ABC
    ABC Player - Preview ABC files as they sound in LOTRO

  25. #100

    Re: LotRO MIDI Player and MIDI to ABC converter

    Thank you

    I use your lotro midi now to 'finish' all my songs,
    ( I work on them in melody Assistant, then export out a midi file and run them through lotro midi ) it is a great and handy tool!
    [url]http://joel-end.blogspot.com/[/url]
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0520a000000001d6c/01005/signature.png]Hoppa[/charsig]

 

 
Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload