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    Mordor wears me out

    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly. (Who won this war anyway?) This is the most dismal and depressing gaming I think I've ever done.

    I understand: Mordor is Mordor, not a cake-walk. If the devs wanted to show they can portray Sauron's realm as a hell-hole, they succeeded all to well. I jumped in with both feet after launch, but the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly. (Who won this war anyway?) This is the most dismal and depressing gaming I think I've ever done.

    I understand: Mordor is Mordor, not a cake-walk. If the devs wanted to show they can portray Sauron's realm as a hell-hole, they succeeded all to well. I jumped in with both feet after launch, but the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.
    That's when having alts come in handy. Switch for a while to an alt that's questing in a nicer locale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly. (Who won this war anyway?) This is the most dismal and depressing gaming I think I've ever done.

    I understand: Mordor is Mordor, not a cake-walk. If the devs wanted to show they can portray Sauron's realm as a hell-hole, they succeeded all to well. I jumped in with both feet after launch, but the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    ...the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break.
    This is one of the reasons I wanted an early detour back to some of the older areas of Middle-earth early on in the Black Book; I thought it was important to get a breather from the darkness. Not everybody gets a total break, as some people go to Moria, but that was the spirit of the thing.

    MoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkoftheRealm View Post
    That's when having alts come in handy. Switch for a while to an alt that's questing in a nicer locale.
    Precisely. While my main is digging deeper into the gloom of Mordor, my youngster Nuncle is chilling out in ANGMAR
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    Visiting elsewhere as Kibilturg, Urwendil... Born and raised on Imladris

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    This is one of the reasons I wanted an early detour back to some of the older areas of Middle-earth early on in the Black Book; I thought it was important to get a breather from the darkness. Not everybody gets a total break, as some people go to Moria, but that was the spirit of the thing.

    MoL
    While that quest of yours was written as brilliantly as you do most of them, and meeting Spoiler was a cute surprise, traveling all the way back to Bree and back again totally shatters the make-believe of living at the end of the Third Age. Let's suppose that the kings of Gondor and Rohan as well as the Rangers of the North provided fresh steeds and provisions, and that the player character is hardier and more durable than even Boromir himself, how long would it take for a rider to go to Bree, do stuff, and return to the Morannon? Months in the least.

    Sorry MoL, it's nice as a quest but it's too "gamey" and anti-immersive
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    This is one of the reasons I wanted an early detour back to some of the older areas of Middle-earth early on in the Black Book; I thought it was important to get a breather from the darkness. Not everybody gets a total break, as some people go to Moria, but that was the spirit of the thing.

    MoL
    You must not be a dwarf! The grandeur of Moria IS a glorious break from the bleakness of Mordor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urwendil View Post
    ...how long would it take for a rider to go to Bree, do stuff, and return to the Morannon? Months in the least.
    I have a tip!

    Don't choose the Durin's Folk Allegiance. Trust me on this. The travel times involved with going from the Lonely Mountain to Mordor and back would straight up destroy you.

    Generally-speaking, travel times are one of those things I've had to let slide ever since we left Bree-land. The distances involved are just too great for most of our storylines to make sense.

    MoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.
    That would be NORMAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    I have a tip!

    Don't choose the Durin's Folk Allegiance. Trust me on this. The travel times involved with going from the Lonely Mountain to Mordor and back would straight up destroy you.
    But...but... I'm first and foremost a Dwarf!

    Generally-speaking, travel times are one of those things I've had to let slide ever since we left Bree-land. The distances involved are just too great for most of our storylines to make sense.

    MoL
    Been aware of that since Vol. I and I'm still enjoying them regardless, but the RP aspect -temporarily- evaporates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urwendil View Post
    But...but... I'm first and foremost a Dwarf!



    Been aware of that since Vol. I and I'm still enjoying them regardless, but the RP aspect -temporarily- evaporates
    Various concessions to convenience have been made over the years that have broken immersion. Travel time was always one I had no problem with, maybe because it was there from the beginning. Traveling from the Shire to Ered Luin by means of one portal for instance. However, I still haven't fully made my peace with the instance finder; yes it was inconvenient, but I actually preferred having to travel to the locale of the instance even if it was by mustering horn, hunter port, or Cappy summons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    This is one of the reasons I wanted an early detour back to some of the older areas of Middle-earth early on in the Black Book; I thought it was important to get a breather from the darkness. Not everybody gets a total break, as some people go to Moria, but that was the spirit of the thing.

    MoL
    Right.

    However, there ought to be, within not too long (in internal time) some more pleasant events that we can visit as a break from endless Mordor-cleansing.

    The Ring fell on March 25. The Ring-bearers were honoured on the Field of Cormallen on April 6.

    King Elessar will be crowned on May 1. I definitely want to see that. (I will change out of Grey Company gear into something more formal, for the occasion.)

    On June 14 the King will find the sapling of the White Tree.

    On 1 Lithe (by the Shire-reckoning, apparently equivalent to June 24), Arwen comes to Minas Tirith, and on Mid-year's Day (June 25, the summer solstice) the wedding is celebrated.

    Now, considering how six months of internal time have been cleverly stretched out over ten years by the judicious use of the Pause-Button. the happy events of the Summer of 3019 ought to cover a couple of years, external time. I bet you already have them scheduled.

    Keep up the good work.
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    Mordor is like wading through treacle. It's fun though, and messy, and yes, most of us need to take breaks while questing through it. I like how I've only been playing this update for just under a week and I've only progressed 2 levels on three alts. It beats finishing all the content and capping in a day or two at most.
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    "mordor wears me out" "endless gloom" "endless cleansing of mordor"

    Mordor has been out exactly 1 week today. Im just getting started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfLions View Post
    This is one of the reasons I wanted an early detour back to some of the older areas of Middle-earth early on in the Black Book; I thought it was important to get a breather from the darkness. Not everybody gets a total break, as some people go to Moria, but that was the spirit of the thing.

    MoL
    MoL, from what I've seen of the Allegiance quests, they look like they'd be a lovely relief from Mordor. Unfortunately, my elf cannot get past the session play, The Battle Under the Trees. It's horribly unbalanced and is starting to be a recurring complaint on server chats now that many are reaching lvl 110. Is there any plans to fix this session play? Or should I just choose a different allegiance group? I'd really like my elf to stay in the elf allegiance, but after 7 fails that session play I'm getting discouraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgarde View Post
    Welcome to Angmar 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly. (Who won this war anyway?) This is the most dismal and depressing gaming I think I've ever done.

    I understand: Mordor is Mordor, not a cake-walk. If the devs wanted to show they can portray Sauron's realm as a hell-hole, they succeeded all to well. I jumped in with both feet after launch, but the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.
    Agreed--I can only take it in smaller doses, due to the overwhelming gloom and need to really on my toes, so spend an hour then switch to my new High Elf in low areas...and actually today decided to level up cleaning up old content, for the most part. There will be days when I am up for the challenge, and don't mind the gloom, but not every day .

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    I also had this feeling back in the day in Angmar ????
    Just switch to an alt from time to time or port to Bree to take a stroll.

    Nevertheless, I love the look and feel of Mordor!
    It is how it should be, and I love discovering all the locations in it.

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    Bleak, dark, smelly, dingy, and full of orcs that will kill you before you can say ' what about Second Breakfast ? ' . It is hard and it is incredibly fun. I set myself a challenge ...to get to lev 106 without dying, half way there now, but I am going very slow, studying each enemy camp , exploring, and trying to get unnoticed as every respectable hobbit would in this situation.

    As for taking a break, I must say my beautiful High Elf is a wonderful distraction, thanks Mol and team .
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgarde View Post
    Welcome to Angmar 2.0
    Just play until your enhanced xp is finished, that's what I do (also I buy more with perks if I want to keep playing), but once that blue bar is gone, I just log out or go to another toon.

    Once you hit cap you can pretty much just chase the epic and regional storyline quests and you can typically gank those out pretty quickly.

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    Thumbs up ''This IS... MORDOR!''

    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly.
    Yesh! It's perfection! IMO, best expac since Moria!!!
    When I first joined Lotro, the question I immediately asked was, "So, can we go into Mordor? That's where I wanna go!'' Now, that dream is being fulfilled and it feels right... in-fact, this has gone beyond my expectations!
    Thank you x1million @Devs, especially @MoL - your writing is pulling together sooooo many questions and cliffhangers that the lore has left us wondering on.
    Sure, there are some minor issues and bugs here and there, but whatever - GW2 and ESO have similar quirks, it's not a big deal (IMO).
    Mordor is Mordor IS MORDOR!
    /RAWR
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgarde View Post
    Welcome to Angmar 2.0
    Angmar was one of my favorite updates. It had that desolate, spooky feeling to it that I liked a lot. Same with this update. With the exception of the avatar changes, which made me very upset, the rest has been great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasconade View Post
    The bleak skies, the deserts, fires and pits. Slime rivers and rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. Orc camps from one end of Udun to the other. Mobs everywhere and they all are deadly. (Who won this war anyway?) This is the most dismal and depressing gaming I think I've ever done.

    I understand: Mordor is Mordor, not a cake-walk. If the devs wanted to show they can portray Sauron's realm as a hell-hole, they succeeded all to well. I jumped in with both feet after launch, but the relentless gloom gets to you after a while. I find I can play for about an hour or 90 minutes before I need a break. It's just gets to be too much.

    I'm in total awe of what Mordor is, so I'm so impressed with the look of the place that I don't know how to be worn out from the darkness and death that exists there.
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    Mordor is a mixed bag for me. I've enjoyed the difficulty, but once the novelty of that wore off, it was the same old same old.

    The quests were a bit boring, the introduction of the new big bad(s) was too generic and predictable. They haven't really tried anything innovative or ground-breaking with this expansion.

    The landscape looked beautiful, but then the go all the way here and then go all the way back there nature of the quests got tired really quick (especially, in such a large landscape). The cynic in me says those quests were designed that way intentionally so folks would click on that mithril fast travel button.

    There's definitely something missing about this expansion, something that just seems off. The trailer...the rushed, clunky epic finale...I'm fine with leaving my toon at level 109 for a couple months (at least, for now).
    Stop worrying so much about a video game...

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    I'll be honest, I hated Angmar and loved Moria. So far I am greatly enjoying Mordor.
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