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I need TP! TP for my ....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackheart-Fury
You have acquired [5 Turbine Points].
This is assuming that you use WA the same number of time which is not the case. I doubt I use it even half as much as Kid. I only use it at the end with MS spam.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
I did, it washes away with the +5% dmg and AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
It's not (in pvp), just try it. I wish people would stop talking about it and actually parse it in 1v1s and come post 6 parses with CB parsing 1200 and 6 without it parsing 500 and call me a noob but we all know that's not happening. If there isn't a decisive and consistent difference in the dps outputs then all this QQ holds no merit. Most creeps on BW understand that it doesn't do much and that's why they don't complain about it. While you may be here arguing for education or just straight up seeking the truth, the majority of others are here because of their epeen and the need to be acknowledged as the gurus of lotro. If you dissect their posts, you'll find elaborate attempts to generate drama while facts or arguments are virtually non-existent. It's all "you're bad because I said so" which translates into "you're bad because you're not friends with us".Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
I use it when it's up and not when it's not. I mainly do it to piss of cry babies that don't know what they're talking about. I win either majority of the time. As you said, it's all about the crit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
Again most people don't know what they're talking about here. They think the +35% dev mag is the big thing here. It might be IF I ever dev in the last 5 seconds of the spar because that's when I usually use it as part of a killing blow rotation. I get a MS dev like 1 out of 20 fights and it wouldn't make much difference if I dev for 4.9k or 5.3k. If MS devs it's over. I use it for the Fervour because I'm too lazy to grind a minor legacy for BF to bring it down to 40 sec and use it twice in a fight. It's the Fervour, it's not uncommon that I use lvl 60 Fervour pots that give +10 dev mag for that reason. It's just that I get the lvl 85 ones for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
Because they do. It's really fun when they avoid 3 brutals in a row. I don't go around crying about their buffs then.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuOoUluhg0
Oh poor Kuni. Can't accept the fact he's not as good as he thinks. Something that hasn't been mentioned, I think: he had the population buff in almost half those fights; Hope token and CB in all of them with food; Those reavers are not good. All there is to see here is class superiority, provided by all the buffs and unnecesary skills used. Kidefence proving he's still the top champion.
I completely understand that a lot of people are now posting responses in this thread because they want to troll you. They'll find ways to ruin any good conversation and I understand that. But I also understand this very clearly: Imagine we had a maximum and minimum dps potential in each fight. The greatest variance is Crit, but other things factor into changing our maximums and minimums. If you do any of those things I listed and you rebutted( cb, dev pot, buffs), they increase your potential minimum dps and potential maximum dps. There is no downside to any of them. What I mean is, if you use any of them in a fight, you can't lower your potential maximum or minimum whatsoever. So Why would you, if you win nearly every time and it's so faceroll, do things in your fights to increase your potential range of dps on both ends if it's not necessary? to piss people off? I'd be pissed too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintagh
I'd put to it two things:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
1. Trying to prove how amazing he is at the class despite mechanic imbalance between the sides
2. He hates dying or the chance of it. Kuni will do anything possible to avoid it. RvR shows this well, especially when he's leading. Killed him a few times in under 2 minutes one fight and he ragequit the raid he was leading.
Please, just go away if you have nothing to add to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moors-Battlemaster
Translation: Kuni leads 10 freeps against the China zerg so Evil brings 24 against him. Kuni tries to find more people during off-peak hour but hey, it's called off-hour for a reason. Conclusion: Evil feels all good in his tummy after beating kunis 10 with 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moors-Battlemaster
Unlike you, I don't have anything to prove to anyone. I play the game whichever way it pleases me and the people around me except for the angry bunch that is here. So, stay mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnazh
A very good question. The answer is, if any one of those Reavers walked up to me and asked me to fight without CB I would for as long as they want regardless if I win or lose. Hell I regularly fight creeps with 0 ops and the WL damage buff for good sports. When I said I do it to piss "them" off, I meant cowboys such as those in this thread that are in such a desperate need of acceptance and acknowledgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfigglesworth
As for your dps argument, the answer is right there in the question. If there was enough of a difference to QQ about I should be losing all the spars without CB which I don't. If there isn't enough of a difference to sway the fight one way or the either then the QQ holds no merit. It's not like I tell people to wait on CB before fighting. I don't even wait on SB/Hedge. I just use whatever's up because it barely contributes to the final result. Crit or lose. My vid shows it, Kids vid shows it and pretty much every fight a Reaver's ever had shows it. Nothing short of bubbles/dn will change that.
Other than play style and ability, DPS is decided solely by gear, cds, pots etc. While individual fights can be decided primarily by luck, the more (and longer) fights you do, the smaller the variance. That is to say, eventually, given enough fights, your average DPS will approach a number based on playing ability and gear/cds/pots. E.g. bracing to try to proc debuff removal will increase your dps by about 10% against reavers, so if you average 500 dps over a large number of fights without bracing, you will likely parse around 550 dps with bracing. While you may still lose individual fights if the RNG favors your opponents, but overall you will win many, many more fights. The more gear/CDs/pots you have or use the larger the disparity. That's the point I, and I assume others, have been trying to get across. It's just how math and the game mechanics work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintagh
The point being: it's possible to win with 10% crit, but 25% crit is going to win so many more fights. It's not a matter of luxury at all.
dev pot---> ferocius strikes --->clobber---> Battle frenzy---> merciful strikes it's one of the many combo you can open using DEv pot etc , they ofc change the direction of the match everytime we use em
I didn't know Dev pots were used in 1v1's on Snowbourn?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anolus
They aren't, nor are consumables in general, at least not by most people. The point is that a free 5 fervour can make a big difference in a fight, despite what some people in this thread would have you believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giliodor
Oh it certainly is a gamechanger. 5 Fervour = Brutal + Clobber + Merciful, for free. That's like... 3-5k damage depending on crits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarenius
I'd change that to 1-8 maybe 9k depending on RNG cuz stuff gets avoided,but stuff also crits and devs often enough. and ifit devs with magnitude buffs...might even go that i meanin the caseof EVERYTHIGN deving, which can happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Giliodor
Which is why I took an average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nifroth