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  1. #1
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    Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    I'm not given much to begging nor posting on the forums but I can keep silent no longer. Please can a little dev resource be given to adding a violin to the music system.

    I wonder sometimes if you realise what a priceless USP you have in the music system. It is, as far as I know, pretty unique and is much loved by many of your customers. But it has the air of something introduced and then forgotten about and could do with some love (I could argue the same for housing and hobbies).

    A great many of the tunes played by the bands and serious musicians is of Gaelic origin, usually traditional folk tunes, and these almost always use a violin (fiddle). It can be pretty hard substituting for this although some fantastic transcriptions are available.

    I know you are busy with all the usual development work but perhaps a little resource could be used for this (and even housing one day); after all you don't need to keep fiddling with classes, we could all use a little stability there for a while.

    If it is not possible or in your plans, I would appreciate you saying so, then we know to stop bothering you.

    Thank you for listening.
    Jobbing musician that resides in Bree. Frequenter of Taverns and places of ill repute

  2. #2
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    I join your request. Violin is often not easy to replace with any other instrument. But I wonder if it will sound good...
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  3. #3
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Violin, yes please. And a tromba of some sort too please. Just the fiddle for starters would be quite OK though!

    It's no trivial task however, besides adding new samples to the synth there's also the small matter of making character animations playing the instrument ...

    But if dev resources were indeed allocated to a music system overhaul, there are a couple of things that I'd prioritize higher than a new instrument.

    First would be a serious look at the existing samples. Some of the instrument register transitions make me squirm. Even worse are the out of tune instruments.

    Second would be extend the ABC interpreter to 4 octaves. For example it's annoying that I can't play the lute (well ... guitar) higher than 8th fret on the E string. Same with the harp.
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    Thumbs up Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Hear, hear! /signed!

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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    /signed

    'He plays the violin, he tucks it right under his chin,
    And he bows, oh wait, no he doesn't... he can't.

    He has to transpose it bagpipes and double it with harp so it's some poor, dreadful imitation. C'mon and be good sports!

    Love,
    A Music System Fan

  6. #6
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Second would be extend the ABC interpreter to 4 octaves. For example it's annoying that I can't play the lute (well ... guitar) higher than 8th fret on the E string. Same with the harp.
    4 octaves would be nice but 5 would be better.
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  7. #7
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Zitat Zitat von Orlor Beitrag anzeigen
    4 octaves would be nice but 5 would be better.
    The only instrument in our arsenal that could possibly have more than 4 octaves playable range is the harp as I see it. For the wind instruments 4 octaves is already pushing the limit a bit. That's why I suggested 4.
    Geändert von Phede (21.10.2011 um 11:11 Uhr)
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    There was a answer to this request way, way....WAY, back in the early days of the music system. The Devs said something about the samples that are available, or would work in the music system, were not good, and sounded terrible. I personally was not happy with this answer, but be that as it may, it seems that we will never get fiddles in game. (I am saying this in the hopes that the Devs will prove me wrong).

    and for the last of many times.......

    Yes. Please give us a Sustained String Instrument in Game!!!! I will take any at this point!!!!!
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    A fiddle! A fiddle!
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    +1 for a violin/fiddle
    Der Drachentöter er genannt!
    Als Drachentöter er bekannt!
    So zieht er denn durchs ganze Land...

  11. #11
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    Thumbs up Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    /signed

    Violin or fiddle! Not new pibgorn It sounded horrible!

  12. #12
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    /signed

    I'd love to play some sadder songs for certain situations.
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    !megaSUPPORT
    We definitely need a violin. How else am I going to play concerning hobbits?!
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    I think i violin would be awesome. I am a violinist myself but I dont think they would get it right. It would end up sounding like your playing violin on a keyboard/synth.(keyboard/synth on violin setting) But if they got it right(they being turbine) it would be the coolest thing for the mini. +1 for violin.

  15. #15
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    A higher octave would be nicer too. Hard to hit the high notes with the limited octave we currently have.

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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    I totally agree. A Violin would be great.

    Quoted from the Minstrel Forums

    "I'm still waiting for the one instrument to rule them all.

    This instrument when in War Speech adds to all skills 20 meter AOE 10 stun + Guaranteed Devastate Critical hit.

    When you walk into the room you don't have to use fear, your enemies will flee from your presence. All enemies are debuffed (+30% attack duration +50% miss chance -25% max morale -70% power +40% run speed (To escape)). Once you start the enemies are powerless to stop you.

    On the downside if you try to heal your allies while in War Speech using this instrument they will cower in fear -5% morale and + 8 dread (Per healing skill used).

    This instrument is not usable in Harmony stance.

    In Melody you will have +25% outgoing healing -19% power cost, and all skills become instant cast. Your allies automatically gain +5 hope and +12% morale. The downside is that if you use any damage based skill you will heal your enemies for +25% morale and they will instantly flock to hear you play, enemies buffed +5% max morale +30% power +5,000 love for minstrel.

    What is this all powerful tool that only the best of minstrels (or worst, not sure which) can wield? That can be wielded for such powerful destruction and such beautiful edification?

    Only one instrument can be so powerfully wielded.





    The Violin"
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Violin, Violin, please add Violin, yes the vibration sound are missing for now in the Middle Earth, so plaese add violin in ours possibility

    Thank in advacne Turbine
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    There is already a viola in game. It is crafted by woodworkers for Bree rep, I believe. Only you cannot play it. You should put violas in game to play! It could not be worse than that pigblast.
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    Recently, I have had interest in finally using the music system after several years of playing. My first impression of music was a violin since that is what I've always wanted to play IRL. Seems we have so many instruments, but not the violin which was the one I was hoping for most.

    Would be a nice addition. Thanks!
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    I think this would be nice, IF they could get it to sound decent. Getting a violin to sound decent with a system like this would be hard, it would probably end up sounded pretty much like a violin does on an electronic keyboard.
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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    /signed

    with enough time and effort I think they could do it. And I would love it!
    A cosmos without the Doctor scarcely bears thinking about- The Master

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    Re: Dear Turbine - Please give us a violin

    How is a dwarf supposed to fit it under his ''chin'' ?
    Geändert von DarkBeauty. (08.04.2012 um 18:49 Uhr)

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    Yes Definitely

    I think a violin would be great, another good thing would be a cello for the bass parts, because I myself am my band's bass player, and play bass in real life.

  24. #24
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    I've asked for a viol many times for several years so with more voices perhaps someone will listen.

    Now about sound samples... We have a fairly large player base of real musicians and computer techs. Would it be possible to combine our own knowledge to produce sound samples for all the instruments for the developer? I am a musician but with no knowledge of sound samples and how they are produced for this game. Anyone got any ideas? Dev comments?

  25. #25
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    Zitat Zitat von Laurefinde Beitrag anzeigen
    Dev comments?
    Has there ever been one in this forum?

    It's a good suggestion Mak, I would love to help out, but it would indeed take some cooperation from Turbine.
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    [I]A small collection of Phedelene's original music (ABC's and MP3's) on [/I][url='http://sdrv.ms/ZMMwsA'][color=#FFFFFF]SkyDrive[/color][/url].[/color][/SIZE]

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